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    Not a lot can go wrong ..

    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    This service is basically just an oil change so there is not a lot to go wrong. Garry
    It sounds like in your case, the independent is more qualified than the local dealer, very possible, and given your dealer reality, you are fortunate.

    Re the oil change, the oil pan on the engine of my 4.4L V8 petrol is plastic, as is the tranny oil pan.

    In the case of my engine, a new oil drain plug, (part number 1013938), is recommended for every oil change and I get charged for such.

    That annoys me however I gather the reason is that the oil seal between the metal plug and the plastic engine oil pan is not the threads, but a small rubber O ring per below. I do not know what the diesel oil pan is made of but that is the story re the petrol and why one of those quick change places would not work for me here and for an independent, I would have to bring in an oil drain plug with me.

    The tranny is even a bigger story, but for that, I did go to the local ZF independent as they were the guys who for the most part, do the tranny service for my dealer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    have costed the service out using $150 per hour labour and the actual cost of parts etc and the dealer wants a couple of hundred $$$ more. .......... in about 40,000km time when I want the gearbox oil change I will go to a ZF transmission agent rather than a landrover specialist.
    The 30 month service ( some time ago , now ) at the LR Dealer
    was about $250 p/h plus GST . That's when I spat the dummy
    and started with an Indy , now at $98 p/h plus GST.
    Change the tranny oil yourself . 4 litre out , and then 4 in. You'll
    notice a difference with just that alone . The extra flush will
    only take it to 6.5ish new oil ......... Save a packet and avoid
    the 'Shop.

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    Looks like I'll be hunting around for a decent Indy then, or going back 10 years and doing some of the work myself ! Not an issue, I've already replaced all the brakes and can see me getting more involved !

    To be fair, I like to keep myself informed on the issues & how to fix them with my own car, in 2 cases this year I've found myself more informed than the main dealer and they've taken my solutions onboard and successfully implemented them (whilst it was still covered by the extended warranty). Now that warranty has expired I'll be using my favoured indy, even though he has limited experience of the car he's prepared to sit with me and work through problems so we can both learn about it. He has direct links into LR Technical so if we do get stuck, even late at night he can make a call for advice. He has all the software and as an ex-LR tech he knows how to use it ! He'd make a fortune in Oz by the sounds of things.

    Part of the problem I have is that my car spec isn't common here in the UK, mine is only the 2nd 4.4 V8 petrol my dealer had ever seen / worked on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbyer View Post
    In the case of my engine, a new oil drain plug, (part number 1013938), is recommended for every oil change and I get charged for such.
    I have checked the TDV6 workshop manual and it indicates that just the washer needs to be replaced.

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    O ring washer makes more sense.

    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    I have checked the TDV6 workshop manual and it indicates that just the washer needs to be replaced. Garry
    Replacing the washer makes more sense than what I do, or my dealer does - well for him, selling parts makes more sense I guess. All you have to do is purchase a dozen or so washers then and you effectively have a few years supply for oil changes - much smarter I must say. I would have to give Land Rover Australia a gold star for making sense for once.

    One question however, can you still buy the washers?

    I looked up parts number from UK sources related to the gasket, LR part number 1005593, and see that it is now superseded by LR part number 1013938, which is the complete drain plug, the treaded metal bit plus the O ring per my jpg in an above post. I was also trying to find out if the oil sump for the TDV6 was metal or some sort of plastic material? I could not figure that out but somehow I think these plastic sumps and complete new drain plugs requirement are somehow related. It is probably something with wanting to start out each time with fresh clean threads so as not to overstress the treads in the oil pan. That was sort of the story my dealer gave me, but I thought the overstress bit was the drain plug, (yes, sounds silly, I know), but now I think he meant overstressing the oil pan threads, probably not so silly, and an expensive replacement.
    Last edited by bbyer; 2nd May 2011 at 03:49 AM. Reason: part numbers for gasket and plug combo

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    The washer thing has nothing to do with Landrover Aust - it is listed in the Workshop Manual that is the universal document.

    I do not know if the washer has been replaced with something else - certainly not reflected in the manual - but surely an aftermarket washer of the correct size and material (copper crush, felt or o-ring) will do for this job of a OEM bit is not available.

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    Pink tape

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    The very early iteration of the workshop manual required the entire drain plug to be replaced. At some stage (several years ago) they changed it to just the o-ring seal. (I had a copy of the early procedure but ditched it when i sold the D3)

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    Service Indicator

    The car goes in for service tomorrow but it clicked over 48,000km today. On start there is no message that the service is due - so what prompts the message??? Every 12,000km or is it 12,000km from the last reset (mine was reset at about 38,500 when the last service was done), or is it something else?

    Thanks

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    They can be set to different alerts , but the standard here is 6 months ,
    and at 30 days before , it starts to count down.

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