An Interesting illustration of Traction Control settings

I had another illustration of how well Traction Control / Terrain Response works on my D3 recently.

Over an extended Easter break, we were in far west NSW heading home with the camper trailer in tow and looking for a morning break. Found a big shady tree about 100m off the road up a dry creek bed - other vehicles had been up the bed, so followed in their wheel tracks. I'm guessing the difference between me and the previous vehicles up this creek bed was that they probably weren't towing a camper trailer! The sand was softer than I expected with a particularly soft bit about half way between the road and my intended stopping point. We made it (engine working hard) OK to the tree and had a pleasant, leisurely break.

On restarting, I hit DSC off and took a longish U turn around the tree in order to build some momentum for that really soft patch. It didn't work! The car buried itself to the axles (if that's where independent suspension D3's bury themselves too!) within a car length of the soft stuff.

In the short time I sat there, my thoughts were:
1/ unhook the camper
2/ let some air out of the tyres
3/ some shovel work. Hopefully enough to get the car out. Otherwise...
4/ winch the car out
5/ winch the trailer out
6/ hook up the trailer
7/ pump up the tryes and I'm ready to go again.

What I did was
1/ select Mud Ruts on the terrain response
2/ turn off DSC (again)
3/ drive out

Unbelievable!! The car climbed out of that hole it had just dug for itself and pulled the trailer with it. I started laughing. By the time I was half way back to the road, I was giggling like a school girl. SWMBO thought I had gone mad - she had no idea we might otherwise have otherwise have been there for hours. I didn't even get out of the car.

Ask me again if I love this car!!

Ian

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Originally Posted by garrycol

I agree - when Landrover put in TR in the vehicles it really was so that dummies like me did not have to think about things - in snow then select GGS - on sand then select sand etc and then off you go invincible.

However - of course that is not the case - you also need to know to turn DSc off but you also need to know that it auto activates when you change TR mode. Also most people (and I am one) do not know exactly what happens to the car with each TR selection - does CDL acticate or not, do you auto go into low range, does height change, is TC reduced, does engine power change etc etc etc.

I think this is the knowledge you need to know to get the best out of the D3/D4 etc. However this information is very hard to find out - I have found some of it but a lot is still white man's magic.

Personally I do not think TR which automatically changes things is a good idea - however if I could change the settings that TR control manually I would be a lot happier and a better driver.

Garry

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I've been in situations when the TC doesn't appear to be doing anything at all.....it's reaction/input is inpercievable in some cases and in other less satisfying circumstances, almost non-existant.

The latter case being when you have no forward motion and very low grip....you sometimes have to give it a bit of a jiggle to wake it up. I've sat in mud and at the buttom of sharp gravel inclines wondering when the other wheels were going to do something.

I'm certain that with the eDiff, this would occur faster, or maybe you wouldn't need as much other TC input..

When moving though....even very slowly, the TC just seems to sort issues very quickly and effectively.

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Originally Posted by Owl

I had another illustration of how well Traction Control / Terrain Response works on my D3 recently.

SHMBO thought I had gone mad - she had no idea we might otherwise have otherwise have been there for hours. I didn't even get out of the car. Ask me again if I love this car!! Ian

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I had about the same experience this winter. I was not paying attention and drove into a bit of snowdrift on the side of the road and came to a halt. My wife was just about to blast me for being careless but she hesitated a bit as she did notice me fiddling with the round knob.

Snow ruts etc, and it just lurched ahead, well actually rearward and then out. I could see her actually deflate and later she mumbled something about the "truck" being not all that bad. In this case, she did notice, and figured she was were there for hours.

Gees guys,
I think that this is the first time that I've turned off a D3 thread before reading it through. My apologies to those of who's posts I missed

I think that we need to have a group BBQ.

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Originally Posted by Bushwanderer

Gees guys,
I think that this is the first time that I've turned off a D3 thread before reading it through. My apologies to those of who's posts I missed

I think that we need to have a group BBQ.

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I will bring the D2 and the rump steak/beers...I will climb to the top of a tall mountain and anyone who makes it up in a D3 will get a beer too:D

Cheers

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Originally Posted by ozscott

I will bring the D2 and the rump steak/beers...I will climb to the top of a tall mountain and anyone who makes it up in a D3 will get a beer too:D

Cheers

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Better bring a lot of beers ..............and a fridge :cool:

Cheers,

Gordon

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Originally Posted by ozscott

I will bring the D2 and the rump steak/beers...I will climb to the top of a tall mountain and anyone who makes it up in a D3 will get a beer too:D

Cheers

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Are we allowed to use TR?? :D

I love it. You aren't a bad bunch, even if you like playing with your knobs:D

Cheers

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Originally Posted by ozscott

I will bring the D2 and the rump steak/beers...I will climb to the top of a tall mountain and anyone who makes it up in a D3 will get a beer too:D

Cheers

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I went to a dealer's demo day in a disused quarry when the D2s were first released, as I had ordered one a few days earlier. The salesman scrambled the D2 up the slope sending gravel flying, showing off what it could do. I stopped my stock RRC at the bottom, idled off in 1st low, stopped half-way up then took-off again in 2nd low. My wife, who stayed with the crowd, later informed me about the Freelander charging up behind me when I stopped.

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Originally Posted by Graeme

I went to a dealer's demo day in a disused quarry when the D2s were first released, as I had ordered one a few days earlier. The salesman scrambled the D2 up the slope sending gravel flying, showing off what it could do. I stopped my stock RRC at the bottom, idled off in 1st low, stopped half-way up then took-off again in 2nd low. My wife, who stayed with the crowd, later informed me about the Freelander charging up behind me when I stopped.

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The ones without CDL did tend to be pretty impressive at firing rocks...


Cheers

PS. Did the Freelander stave in its front end on your RRC?