The first ones had the unconnected CDL, so definitely no CDL for the demo.
I wasn't aware if the FL so no, it didn't. Non-thinking salesman chasing a vehicle up a slippery slope was asking for trouble though.
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The first ones had the unconnected CDL, so definitely no CDL for the demo.
I wasn't aware if the FL so no, it didn't. Non-thinking salesman chasing a vehicle up a slippery slope was asking for trouble though.
There are a few put down comments in this thread about incompetent drivers etc as if anyone using TR is not a real 4 wheel driver.
I would ask those who make these comments how well they themselves drove off road when they first got into 4 wheel driving seriously off road?
Skill and knowledge is something learned from experience not something passed down magically from a parents jeans. We all started some where and I bet all of us have made our fair share of daft mistakes and have looked and sounded pretty stupid occassionally while gaining that experience.
Personally I'd like to meet the perfect person who knows everything and can do everything well and who has not blundered along the way.
cheers,
Terry
perhaps you could try the Tasmanian "Greens" as they seem to fit your description, they are pretty good at telling everybody else in the world how to live their life - what sort of vehicle to drive - where NOT to camp - how much "power" we should use (and how it's generated).....just a thought :twisted:Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryO
Well Oldsalt you got me there with those pearls of wisdom ;)
...talk about taking a subject right off topic. :eek:
cheers,
Terry
Yeah .... sorry about the "rant" but a few years ago my wife and me did a "camping" trip in Tassie and were amazed at the forest of "No Camping" signs we struck - and one sunny day as we were harmlessly parked in the main street of Strahan (spending tourist dollars) we were told how "unfriendly" (eco wise) or vehicle was by a dreadlocked hippie who then proceeded to get into his very old Tasmanian rego'ed VW and drive off in a cloud of smoke - the smoke was that bad I almost missed seeing the "save the planet" stickers on the rear bumper !!!!
Ah well.. it takes all types to make a world,
cheers
Was the smoke coming out of the windows :cool::cool:
If so it could have been brother
Agree 100% with Terry. Many years ago when I came to Australia the first time, I went snow driving in Victoria. Didn't know much about 4WD Driving but I had a Discovery (3.5V8i). Anyway I was having real trouble going up the hills, kept slipping off the track etc. When we got to the top one of the guys asked me what range I was in. I replied that I was in high range with the diff locked!!! They were quite surprised I got as far as I did. I assumed driving in the snow would be like driving in the sand (i.e. momentum and power). Once I put it in low range I had no further problems. I would never have known unless someone had told me (no internet in those days).
Ivan
Well said Terry!Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryO
Comments like "TR is for knobs" really **** me off......
Well said TerryO, but
I am sure you have forgotten that all 15 year olds both know every thing & can do every thing.
It is only once you have turned about 20 & have to live a real life that you seem to loose the amazing abilities & knowledge you have as a teenager.:)
Jonesfam
I think people miss the T.I.C comments some put here...
Perhaps a slightly thicker skin could be considered.
I think the thread overall is a good open discussion on TR and it's benefits in the modern LR range.
Does this make it superior?
Does it make it easier?
Does it replace driving ability?
Or the ability to 'read' terrain and drive appropriately?
Does it remove the requirement for correct tyre pressures?
Sorry, but the D3+ owners do tend to come across a little precious some times when their machines are challenged...
I'm sure you are all great people, so how about kicking back, having a scotch and let's talk about these great vehicles and their features.
Thankyou to the OP for his thread, it's been most appreciated.