Misfueling tool troubles

I filled my new D4 at the Peak station in Kwinana using the hi-flow truck bowser and had no problems. The nozzle needed to be held at the right angle and it did need holding - it won't fit into the hole inside the fill pipe, but I was filling at at least twice the rate of the usual nozzles. I had no problems with blow back but I was careful to slow down a bit toward the top!

The "anti-gasoline" device might be a pain in the bum, but I got a call from a friend of mine with an almost brand new LC200 a while ago - he had just pumped 40 litres of PULP into his diesel tank. He has no idea why he did it and he is old enough to know better. Being in the oil business, I did the hero thing :angel:and turned out with a 200 litre drum, some hoses and a rotary pump and we managed to get a suction hose into the top of the tank (from under the car) to pump it out. I did some calculations on the dilution of the diesel with gasoline and worked out by topping the tank with diesel we got the dilution down to under 2%. THis will not cause any operational problems - only potential legal ones.

Cheers

Al

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The "anti-gasoline" device might be a pain in the bum, but I got a call from a friend of mine with an almost brand new LC200 a while ago - he had just pumped 40 litres of PULP into his diesel tank. He has no idea why he did it...

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My wife pulled into a Caltex (she had a Woolies discount voucher) one dark, wintery night and proceeded to fill the D3. Took 80 litres.

Drove off, turned a corner and the thing just died. The RAA came out, said 'hmm' and sent for a flat top. Tooh it to British 4x4 and the worst was confirmed, 80 litres of unleaded.

The issue here is the branding, all the pumps are in dark colours and called vortex this and vortex that. The names meant nothing and in the bad light the colours did not register. (At least Shell use red and yellow for petrol and black for diesel). And she's owned diesels for 15 years.

The good part of the story is the error codes that stopped the motor came from the rear fuel pump - low fuel and fuel viscosity warnings. The computer shut everything down before the petrol got to the injector pump or injectors. So we just had to replace the filters and pay labour on a good flush out of the fuel system. 6 months down the track fuel consumption is still the same, and no loss of performance so we are confident there is no real damage (except to her pride).

I've looked at the aftermarket devices that only allow diesel fillers since...

I initially was going to replace the filler with one from a D3 because my local servo has only 1 diesel bowser and its high-flow. However by holding the nozzle squarely against the filler, I can get a good flow until almost full. I wont be removing the device so as to retain some insurance against making a mistake elsewhere.

Had the same issue traveling through Kalgoorlie recently, the solution for me was a piece of high tensile fencing wire from the broken down fence around the BP servo, cut about 300mm long, bent the ends to 90dgs at about 6mm long, then bent it around to form a handle with the ends parellel. It's then just a matter of slotting them into the slots in the top of the filler tuber and gently pulling up.
Maybe a little rough and ready but it works and the crap plastic tool looked at home in the bin, put the home made one with the jack.

Cheers Colin

Colin
I know it is an old post but thanks for your guidance,
After managing to trip the flap while fueling up from Jerry Cans i have struggled the last three months to fill my car!!!! Still cant beleive you pay $120,000 for a car and dont get a cheap plastic tool with it!!!
Anyway after reading your description and a bit of Googling i fashioned up one my Forks from home, little bit of bending here and there and hey presto that dastardly little yellow flap has been reset!!!
Appreciate your help and AULRO group for all their help.
Rohan

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Colin
I know it is an old post but thanks for your guidance,
After managing to trip the flap while fueling up from Jerry Cans i have struggled the last three months to fill my car!!!! Still cant beleive you pay $120,000 for a car and dont get a cheap plastic tool with it!!!
Anyway after reading your description and a bit of Googling i fashioned up one my Forks from home, little bit of bending here and there and hey presto that dastardly little yellow flap has been reset!!!
Appreciate your help and AULRO group for all their help.
Rohan

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You do get one. It’s in the toolkit. If yours doesn’t, did you buy it second hand and maybe the previous owner misplaced it, else visit the dealer for one.

I am sure i am supposed to get one, but i didnt!!! Car is now 5 years old, cant imagine if I rocked into JLR saying i never got one that they would just hand one over. No problems, the Fork did the trick anyway, just need to be more mindful when filling from the Jerry cans,

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Car is now 5 years old, cant imagine if I rocked into JLR saying i never got one that they would just hand one over.

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You don't if you don't ask.[smilebigeye]

Mine was in the glovebox. I presume you've opened that once or twice in 5 years.[bigsmile1]

Martin

So it seems they are not the sturdiest items - might pay to bubble-wrap and take care where you store it. Never good to have tool troubles in remote locations...[/QUOTE]


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Mine had been triggered by the previous owner. I used to curse and cuss trying to input the diesel until I found the "device" with a broken tooth.
So I just made this one in the pic attached . . . . piece of fencing wire or old coat hanger (not necessarily old) will do the job. Doing it held in the vice makes it easy. Wire length 60mm - fold it in the middle so that the ends are even - grip the tips in the vice so that it can be hammered over at right angles 10mm is good - then grip it 3/4 way down & use screw driver to put in a few twists to make it sturdy. The little kink in the legs is a self adjustment to make it slot into the lift holes a little easier. Adjust the width of the legs to suit the holes . . . . cost = just 10 minutes of your valuable time. Don't forget to test it before you go bush.

Re the high flow issue . . . the oversize nozzles are a pain. How much time do you save anyhow ? About 30sec which you use cleaning up the mess it makes.
Some bowsers (BP) do have a high flow button on a standard diesel nozzle if time is important, personally I happy to stretch the legs and get of my backside for a while.

Safe travels . . . . .
Salt grinder

I am going past JLR tomorrow, may just drop i an try my luck!!!!
thought i would share my little home made tool, it doesn't photograph well but it worked, and now safely resides in the toolbox.
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