Total Engine Failure 2005 D3 TDV6

Seeing my D3 will be in many pieces while the new engine is fitted I asked the dealer if its worth while having the auto transmission serviced.
This is the response I got

Transmission oil is life time oil, we can replace it but it comes with new sump & works out about $1300.00.

Obviously no discount for spending heaps on the engine - yes I know the oil is expensive.

Why do they insist on this "life time" thing. I thought that the auto trans should be serviced at 100K - and seeing mine had done 80K , this could have been a good opportunity to get it all done.

How long are you going to keep this vehicle ?
This is a black-hole for money , if you let them
milk you enough ..........

Order your own oil and a steel pan direct from ZF. Much cheaper. The oil change does not need to be done when you have the engine out. If you change the pan to the steel one you can just break off the pipe.

Hi Richard,

for what its worth I would not get the dealer to do any other work then the minimum as their hourly rates are way over the top.

I recently had a new long engine fitted under warranty and there is no reason this can't be done for substantially less then 15k. The dealers buy the 2.7 TDV6 engines new as stock order items for a surprisingly low amount of money.

The fact that they quoted you $1300 for a auto service should be setting off alarm bells.

I like you would like to know if there is any differences between the early build 2.7's to the ones LR carrys in stock and sells today. When the workshop ordered mine he told me LRA had said they had six 2.7 long engines in stock so I'm guessing there is a reasonable turn over off new engines they sell.

Good luck with it.

cheers,
Terry

It's interesting that the difference in price between a diesel
and 4.0 petrol in D3S was $10K ( with 25% higher tax bracket )
back then , but it's only $3700 on a Terri ( and that engine
has 10% import tax , compared with the straight 6 petrol alternative ) .

There's a big rip-off going on with these 2.7 blocks ........

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Originally Posted by rdenyer

Seeing my D3 will be in many pieces while the new engine is fitted I asked the dealer if its worth while having the auto transmission serviced.
This is the response I got

Transmission oil is life time oil, we can replace it but it comes with new sump & works out about $1300.00.

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MR Automotive in Qld will do the auto service for $900 which includes the upgraded sump which makes future oil changes easier and cheaper. Mine is going in next week.

Mine was done for $625 at the ZF agents in WA last year

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Originally Posted by Neil P

It's interesting that the difference in price between a diesel
and 4.0 petrol in D3S was $10K ( with 25% higher tax bracket )
back then , but it's only $3700 on a Terri ( and that engine
has 10% import tax , compared with the straight 6 petrol alternative ) .

There's a big rip-off going on with these 2.7 blocks ........

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Hi Neil,

I take it that your working on the assumption that the Falcon six costs bugger all to Ford Australia compared to what the D3's petrol six cost LR I take it?

Personally I think while the 2.7 engines are not that cheap new, in reality to what it costs to reco one they aren't that bad in price.

Plus when they first came out in D3's as an option they were state of the art, now they are old technology so if anything it would be reasonable to expect Ford Aus is buying them at a knock down price.

Maybe that is why they have taken so many years to fit the 2.7's to the Territory?

cheers,
Terry

I reckon the 4.0 V6 Ford Cologne world engine didn't cost LR , as a
part of Ford , any more than the Broadmeadows unit . I don't know
if the V6 has the same plastic chain-timing cassette as the terrible
Mexican engines in the Explorer/clones range ........ Nobody appears
to have posted its failure , as is common on the ( far more numerous
Explorer ) US Ford sites . Maybe the German front and back chain
mechanism is different . With the turbo and HP fuel system absent
from a block-only purchase , a 2.7 can't cost nine grand ?

:)
Finally I have the D3 back, new engine installed sounds lovely even got a new black plastic engine cover.
now I have a question - as I have a nice new engine and I don't want this to ever happen again, I would like to put some extra gauges to monitor oil temp/pressure.
What options are there - found a neat solution for older D1/D2 from Madman ECM-2 and it seems with products like "Faultmate" engine information can be read, but I am looking for a solution that I could leave permanently mounted.
Although a computer engineer I am not all that interested in building a in-car PC solution.

Ideal solution in my mind would be a ECM-2 for the D3 ?

Any suggestions