D2 to D3 - who's done it and how has it worked out ?

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Originally Posted by tileys

At the moment we've got a Prado 120 d4d but although that is setup with a UHF and dual batteries for pulling the camper trailer around it's the wife's daily drive and there's a limit we are prepared to mod it. I have driven a non turbo 4.2 cruiser around the merinee loop and in and out of palm valley and it was pretty gutless and thirsty when asked to work (we weren't even towing anything). The turbo versions are just astronomical - I drove one the other day that had done 170k had no service history and they wanted 47 for it !

We previously had a 3.5 petrol pajero which was a lovely drive on the road and surprisingly capable off it but not very moddable.

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Unless you get the 4.2TD Cruiser, stick with the D4D Prado, by the way 47,000 for TD4.2 Cruiser is cheap, some go for way more than that and 170K for a 4.2 is not a lot of Ks.

Baz.

I guess the point I was making was that the D2 was becoming unreliable even though it was being well serviced.

The D3 will have 5 years warranty which is something not even offered with the D2.

I use my car for work including it's 4wd ability.

D3's are still holding good values even the 7 year old models.

I will say though that I am starting to look for a V8 D1 or D2 for more extreme duties - this not because I think that the D3 is not capable but for fear of breaking it & not having a work vehicle.

I also remember opinion that the D2 was to complicated etc etc after it was introduced.

Regards

Chuck

I had an unmodded D2 TD5 and then after a break I have an unmodded tdv6 se D3 and they are light years apart in terms of capability and reliability, I will take the d3 any day. I owned both from new and there was absolutely no way I was going to keep the TD5 past the end of it's warranty because it broke on an almost monthly basis but my D3's only problem in two years has been a below par door seal replaced under warranty. In terms of comfort, on road the D3 is better than my BMW 325ci I replaced with it, on gravel, I just did about 1500 km on gravel averaging 80-100kph and it was superb, the kids were even able to comfortably watch a portable DVD player. And in the seriously rough, as long as you understand and properly use the electronics it will go places unmodded which will leave the unmodded TD5 in a quivering heap. ( you might want to add the Llams system though). I am seriously considering keeping the D3 beyond the warranty for the first time many years.

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Originally Posted by Neil P

I don't think many readers on this forum would touch an 8 year old D3 with a bargepole .......

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I guess we will have to wait until D3's actually get to their 8th birthday before we know if your correct or not.

My guess is there will be plenty of D3 owners who will end up with old D3's (when they actually do become old) and who will be still very happy with them.

cheers,
Terry

Goodness Andrew...I had better get my quivering heap out of your way on the trails...hahahha..love it (although mine is a V8 D2 does that count?:D).

I love passionate LR owners...but the turn of phrase is such a beautiful thing in that post.

Cheers

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Originally Posted by ozscott

Goodness Andrew...I had better get my quivering heap out of your way on the trails...hahahha..love it (although mine is a V8 D2 does that count?:D).

I love passionate LR owners...but the turn of phrase is such a beautiful thing in that post.

Cheers

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Ok maybe I was a little flowery, but I was staggered what the D3 could do when I had someone who really knew what they were doing guide me through all the programs in real life situations. Well beyond anything I had done before.

I owned a D2 for 5 years and leased a new D3 TDV6 SE three and a half years ago. The D3 is so far ahead of the D2 in all areas that it is hard to make a comparison. The gotcha is that if you are using any vehicle hard it is going to acquire "character marks".
Both are probably more expensive to repair than a cruiser and accessories are also hard to come by second hand. I wouldn't swap the D3 though.

Regards,
Tote

Had a D2 V8 for just over a year. Bought a D3 TDV6 mainly because the wife hated the D2 as it was noisy and unrefined. She has no problems with the D3 :D.

Both are very capable off road but standard the D3 is more capable. The D3 is so much better on the bitumen except it has more body roll (D2 had ACE).

TDV6 is much better than the V8, quieter, smoother, more powerful and more economical.

D3s can be found cheap and I bought mine for not much more than people are asking for D2a TD5s.

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Originally Posted by Geedublya

Both are very capable off road but standard the D3 is more capable. The D3 is so much better on the bitumen except it has more body roll (D2 had ACE).

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Your spot on Geedublya, most D3/4 owners would be very surprised to find out that a D2 with ACE and SLS and running on 18's would run circles around their D3/4's in the handling department.

D3/4's are more comfortable especially on bumpy roads but they don't handle in comparision.

cheers,
Terry

Terry,
After having a D3 and now a D4, I can say that the D4 handles better than the D3. Havent driven a D2 with ACE, but I'm tipping the D4 would be my preffered ride
Cheers, Craig