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    Smile Exceeding GVM

    Hi folks,

    Have just picked up my MY09 SE and have been considering what bars and so on to attach for outback adventure. My main concern is exceeding the GVM. Kaymar quoted 98kg for dual wheel carrier, I believe ARB winch bar is 55kg, Winch 30-40kg, long range tank 38kg + 90 odd kg fuel, 2xspare wheels + additional kg for offroad LT tyres 81kg. This starts to eat into the payload which is only about 3230-2700 = 530kg. This doesn't seem to leave a lot left for spares, recovery gear, tent, cooking, sleeping gear etc and passengers.

    Has anyone been on a weigh bridge lately with all their barwork, LR tanks, and dual spare wheels to see how much it all weighs in total?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug145 View Post
    Hi folks,

    Have just picked up my MY09 SE and have been considering what bars and so on to attach for outback adventure. My main concern is exceeding the GVM. Kaymar quoted 98kg for dual wheel carrier, I believe ARB winch bar is 55kg, Winch 30-40kg, long range tank 38kg + 90 odd kg fuel, 2xspare wheels + additional kg for offroad LT tyres 81kg. This starts to eat into the payload which is only about 3230-2700 = 530kg. This doesn't seem to leave a lot left for spares, recovery gear, tent, cooking, sleeping gear etc and passengers.

    Has anyone been on a weigh bridge lately with all their barwork, LR tanks, and dual spare wheels to see how much it all weighs in total?

    Thanks.
    Ours is 3110kg loaded, with the camper ball weight, we have kaymar bar and 2 carriers, Long range tank, Opposite lock bullbar and winch, drawers and gear in them, fridge, 2 auxillary batteries.

    Baz.
    Cheers Baz.

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    I have a Kaymar single wheel carrier and a Long Ranger tank.

    On our last outing with van I stopped by the weight bridge. The van + D4 + Us were were within 180kg of GVM the Long Ranger had 20L of fuel and the main was full.

    So we are very close to the limit. There was some gear in the D4 but not a lot. The was 3500kg.... plus a little

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    I looked originally at doing very similar mods to our D3 as Barry has done with his D4 but once you add a decent tow ball weight into the mix if your towing a van like we often do when we go camping then it would be very easy to no longer be within legal maximum load ratings for a D3/4. In fact I worked out it would be near impossible once you add in the weight of two people. Especially if your D3/4 is a HSE which has a lower weight carrying capacity then the lower spec Disco's.

    Of course there is always the option of never filling up both fuel tanks but then why bother having two tanks?

    Weight can be saved if the rear seats are removed but that only gets you back about 70 kg and leaves the floor unlevel.

    In part that is why I decided to keep the D1 as the serious off roader, for me anyway, it is cheaper to own a lightly modded D3 for towing and easy off road work and a heavilly modded D1 for serious off road usage, then it would be to spend the money to heavilly mod our D3.

    Plus its no big deal if you stove a door or a guard in on a D1 off road as parts a cheap and plentiful.

    cheers,
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    Hi, I to have the Kaymar duel wheel carrier, Mitch Hitch, LongRanger tank, ARB front bar with winch, drawers, 80 litre WAECO with twin AGMs inside the car etc etc.
    I have not weighed the car but when travelling I would think that like others that I exceed the max limit, always have intentions to weigh when fully loaded but "another one of those jobs to do" and have not passed an open public weigh bridge at the times of travelling around Oz.
    Regarding the reversing alarms, despite adjusting the sensors going off with the tyres and MitchHitch, could not get them to stop beeping but found that when I put the stick on round chair leg rubbers to cover them, that it stopped them beeping when nothing behind me but when close enough to something the strength of the sensors through the rubber did in fact warn me and is enough warning to be safe.

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    Thanks for the responses about vehicle weights. I noticed that Disco4SE has started a thread about vehicle weights called How Heavy is Yours??
    I will continue my quest on that thread so you can continue discussing the advantages of the Kaymar bar and how to overcome the rear parking sensor issues.

    Thanks again.

  7. #37
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    Goin away from the subject of weight, just received my rear bar and was looking at the pieces. How did you guys, who fitted it yourselves, wire the lights. I only got 2 like 10 inch extensions that hardly look like they'll be able to reach each light cluster on the car. Where did you wire them to, etc any help, pic's are always better, you can give would be great. Hope you guys can steer me in the right direction as to how it all goes together,
    Cheers

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    Hi all,

    First post so please be gentle.

    I picked up my new D4 last Friday and am getting getting busy working out what I need to get it "bushed up". One question that I can't find any reference to is in relation to the reversing camera and Kaymar rear bar.

    I have the factory reversing camera and want to fit a dual spare wheel carrier. Does anyone have experience on;
    1. Does the camera get relocated?
    2. Is there enough vision if only the drivers side spare wheel is fitted, for the camera to see in its existing position?

    Thanks in advance.

    Dave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavyduty View Post
    Hi all,

    First post so please be gentle.

    I picked up my new D4 last Friday and am getting getting busy working out what I need to get it "bushed up". One question that I can't find any reference to is in relation to the reversing camera and Kaymar rear bar.

    I have the factory reversing camera and want to fit a dual spare wheel carrier. Does anyone have experience on;
    1. Does the camera get relocated?
    2. Is there enough vision if only the drivers side spare wheel is fitted, for the camera to see in its existing position?

    Thanks in advance.

    Dave
    Where is the factory reversing camera??

    I would say no, you would need to move it yourself, unless it is in the factory bumper, give Kaymar a call or email them.

    Baz.
    Cheers Baz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heavyduty View Post
    Hi all,

    First post so please be gentle.

    I picked up my new D4 last Friday and am getting getting busy working out what I need to get it "bushed up". One question that I can't find any reference to is in relation to the reversing camera and Kaymar rear bar.

    I have the factory reversing camera and want to fit a dual spare wheel carrier. Does anyone have experience on;
    1. Does the camera get relocated?
    2. Is there enough vision if only the drivers side spare wheel is fitted, for the camera to see in its existing position?

    Thanks in advance.

    Dave
    Hi Dave,

    Not sure with the dual, but I have a Kaymar with the drivers side spare and do not lose any vision, in fact you can also see the spare which helps in reversing


    Gup

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