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People also need to take a good look at what they are taking camping, generators,stoves, cooking equipment, etc. I like to keep it simple, done plenty of remote area extended trips and never gone over my gvm. Cargo drawers are handy but a set of draws could mean loosing 2drums of fuel or water, I know what I would rather have.maybe consider light weight camping gear?
Summiitt, how do you know you haven't exceeded your GVM? Have you weighed the car?Quote:
Originally Posted by Summiitt
At least the D4 can carry nearly 700 kg above its stock weight, which is more than GU Patrols and 200 Series Cruisers. However, I am left with about 500 kg payload because of my rear bar, fuel tank, bull bar etc. I already have the roof top tent that I want to use, which is one of the lightest available, but I have 200 kg of people and up to 100 kg of fuel plus an extra spare. Once you add all this and the fridge I already own with stuff in it, I am up for a trailer to legally carry any more as you point out.
The main reason I started this post was to answer people's questions as to the weight of the car with the common extras that mine has. I was actually pleasantly surprised that it wasn't more than 2740 kg. It is about the weight of a 200 series without all the goodies that mine has. Now I just have to figure out what I need to take on my trip and get things organised.
Has anyone got any ideas on what I can remove from the car to make it lighter, other than what I have already mentioned? How much do the third row seats weigh?
Bob
Bob, I saw a post on this forum for the rear seats.....I am pretty sure someone mentioned about 75kgs.
But then again I have also read that legally they can't be removed.....better off with the lower weight, as a cop may not even know about that rule. Best breaking the rule that has the best result.
Brett...
Must sadly disagree with you there.Quote:
Originally Posted by minibloodhound
Most 4wd are well over... Often 500+kg over.
Which is 25% sometimes!
Most overloaded trucks are barely 2 tonnes over (B double)
Which is ~5%
Most 4wdrives are exceeding wheel rating and max axle loads which is a design criteria and can be deadly.
Can be legally removed as long as not permanent.Quote:
Originally Posted by discotwinturbo
Might have to remove mine then....Quote:
Originally Posted by skuilnaam
Brett....
Removing the 3rd row of seats "temporarily" and the centre 2nd row seat reduces weight significantly - about equivalent to a full long range tank.
When I travel I replace the 2nd row centre seat with one of those cheap bins from the local hardware for additional storage for less used items. I replace the seat mounting bolts with eye bolts 4x and use them to hold/strap the bin and other items down - this still leaves four seats.
Yep, I always weight the vehicle the day before a trip just to see where it's at,
I think this is a great thread because the amount of times I have pulled up to help someone out bush with a mechanical or structural failure/ issue in all types of 4wds, and asked, how heavy is it? Very rarely do they have any idea.
Don't worry I wasn't having a go at you:) it's good to get people to think about their gvms, overloaded vehicles will always cause issues particularly in an emergency situation, where vehicle handling is important.Have fun on your trip!
I just can't get the torx bolts undone. Crikey they are tight. Might need to pop into a shop that has something more powerful to undo the bolts that had the rear seats in.Quote:
Originally Posted by AGRO
Brett....
Brett,
When you get the seats out can you please confirm their weight to help with my planning?
Are you taking them out because you are going on a trip or just to generally reduce weight to improve econimy etc? It will also provide a bit more storage space I guess although the lack of a flat floor could be an issue.
Bob