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9th July 2012, 03:25 PM
oldsalt

This has turned into a most interesting thread, and as to the "front" of a vehicle ... I had a series of VW kombis over many years and their roof was about 6 inches from the "front" of the vehicle due to its very flat "nose" .... makes you wonder ????
I had been thinking about getting a set of LEDs for my D3 but now I'm not to sure..... :(
9th July 2012, 03:50 PM
isuzurover

From an earlier (2010) thread on light bars:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Hjelm

Today I spoke to Modifications Branch of Qld. Transport. Although these lights are not specifically mentioned in either the legislation or the Transport Operations Road User Manual, it appears they are now permitted. Must be mounted symetrically in pairs; centres no closer than 600mm; not to exceed the vehicular maximum height of 4.3 metres; wired and switched through the high beam circuit with a master switch in the circuit as well. Usage in accordance with the regulations pertaining to high beam headlights, not to be used within 200 metres of another vehicle, not to be used when stationary, not to interfere with the safe operation of any other vehicle, not to dazzle or annoy the driver of any other vehicle.

The requirement of minimum 600mm centres and symmetric pairs means that most vehicles other than heavy trucks would be restricted to two overhead lamps there not being room for more without overhanging the side of the roof.

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/discovery-...ights-qld.html
9th July 2012, 05:37 PM
SWH

LED Lights

Members,

My reading of the relevant Regulations for NSW, at this site:

ROAD TRANSPORT (VEHICLE REGISTRATION) REGULATION 2007 - SCHEDULE 2

says nothing about the front of the vehicle. Reg 90 says:

90 Performance of headlights

(1) When on, a headlight, or additional headlight, fitted to a vehicle must:
(a) show only white light, and
(b) project its main beam of light ahead of the vehicle.
(2) Headlights must be fitted to a vehicle so their light does not reflect off the vehicle into the driver’s eyes.

The 600 mm issue I believe relates to the low beam (Reg 87) NSW or possibly fog lights see QLD paper previously posted.

There are other regulations about spot lights, but that is a different issue.

The issue about the "front" is only that nothing can be located so it protrudes beyond the front of the vehicle. Of course many driving lights when fitted do offend. If on the roof, obviously will not at least against that requirement.

True there are other issues but generally it appears that LED lights on the roof rack that face forward and do not shine in the eyes of the driver of that car and are turned off when low beam is on, are OK even if one single light bar (but don't quote me).

Of course the NSW Roads and Maritime Services (as it now is) could clear this up with a document on their web site, but I can't find it, so appears we are left to reading the regulations.
9th July 2012, 05:53 PM
CaverD3

Paranoid?

If you have fitted them and they don't like it you will get a defect notice.

NSW police and RMS are loking for lowered cars with tinted windows and loud exhausts.
9th July 2012, 06:00 PM
discotwinturbo

I just popped into the Kelmscott WA licensing centre and had them check out my bar mounted led light bar.
They had no issue with it. They asked did I have a separate switch and would it only light up on the high beam switch. They got me to flick them on.....the big fellow said "gee there bright", and then said have a good day.
Brett.....
9th July 2012, 06:04 PM
isuzurover

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWH

Members,

My reading of the relevant Regulations for NSW, at this site:

ROAD TRANSPORT (VEHICLE REGISTRATION) REGULATION 2007 - SCHEDULE 2

says nothing about the front of the vehicle. Reg 90 says:

90 Performance of headlights

(1) When on, a headlight, or additional headlight, fitted to a vehicle must:
(a) show only white light, and
(b) project its main beam of light ahead of the vehicle.
(2) Headlights must be fitted to a vehicle so their light does not reflect off the vehicle into the driver’s eyes.

The 600 mm issue I believe relates to the low beam (Reg 87) NSW or possibly fog lights see QLD paper previously posted.

There are other regulations about spot lights, but that is a different issue.

The issue about the "front" is only that nothing can be located so it protrudes beyond the front of the vehicle. Of course many driving lights when fitted do offend. If on the roof, obviously will not at least against that requirement.

True there are other issues but generally it appears that LED lights on the roof rack that face forward and do not shine in the eyes of the driver of that car and are turned off when low beam is on, are OK even if one single light bar (but don't quote me).

Of course the NSW Roads and Maritime Services (as it now is) could clear this up with a document on their web site, but I can't find it, so appears we are left to reading the regulations.

This has all been done to death before:

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/general-ch...ng-lights.html

From the docs linked in that thread:

Quote:

Two additional pairs may be fitted. These lamps need not comply with ADR 46.
The mandatory and optional lamps maybe concealable when not in use and be
equipped with devices to maintain alignment.
Prohibited
On trailers.
3. Position
Pairs of lamps shall be fitted symmetrically (same position on both sides of vehicle).
The light emitted shall not cause the driver discomfort either directly or indirectly
through the rear view mirror and/or other reflecting surfaces of the vehicle.
When there are two pairs of headlamps, one pair which function as main-beam
headlamps only may swivel according to the angle of lock of the steering about a
substantially vertical surface.
3.1 Width:
Main beam headlamps must not be placed wider than the dipped beam headlamps.
3.2 Height:
No individual specifications.
3.3 Length:
At the front of the vehicle and facing forward.
9th July 2012, 06:21 PM
CaverD3

Quote:

Originally Posted by discotwinturbo

I just popped into the Kelmscott WA licensing centre and had them check out my bar mounted led light bar.
They had no issue with it. They asked did I have a separate switch and would it only light up on the high beam switch. They got me to flick them on.....the big fellow said "gee there bright", and then said have a good day.
Brett.....

Reality. :BigThumb:
9th July 2012, 06:23 PM
scarry

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaverD3

Paranoid?

If you have fitted them and they don't like it you will get a defect notice.

NSW police and RMS are loking for lowered cars .

Does that mean i have to drive around at off road height?:confused:
9th July 2012, 06:48 PM
Robocop

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaverD3

Paranoid?

If you have fitted them and they don't like it you will get a defect notice.

NSW police and RMS are loking for lowered cars with tinted windows and loud exhausts.

Do they? Are they really?
9th July 2012, 07:02 PM
seano87

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robocop

Do they? Are they really?

Probably just like they are currently targeting P platers in cars with louder than stock exhausts... well according to my green P-plate neighbour anyway.

I kinda pointed out maybe it was more that someone pulled out in front of a cop, fishtailing it down the street being a dickhead rather than because he's a p-plater in a ute with exhaust.

Just like the time before it might have been the flogging the nuts of it at about 120km/h at night in a residential street.

Admittedly, got a warning both times. Both times also pulled over right in front of the house with parents watching the spectacle.

Point is, in the scheme of things, cops probably couldn't give a **** about where your light bars are as long as they're not being used inappropriately. They've got better things to deal with?

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