MY D4 Is Bleeding

I've seen the turbos grind themselves to death, but I mean, yeah I probably was being a bit general about that. Of course there are other things that can go wrong with them.

As for how we get payed for the warranty work, Let say your turbo job is 10 hours work. LR pay us, as an example 80 dollars an hour for 10 hours only, whether it takes 3 hours or 20 hours, to work on that car. If the same job had to be undertaken but the customer was paying, we would basically get double that.

I got more information on that oil feeder pipe, I know the man who engineered it, it is a case by case part, there are only a few around and they may have needed to split the body to insert the new pipe. They basically took the old pipe and put a one way valve in it.

So yeah, don't know what more to add, plus I need to get to work /sigh.

Hope this eases your mind a little, I'd be glad to answer any further questions you may have.

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Originally Posted by LRTech23

Some dealers do not sent ther technicians to get properly trained, I am lucky in that I get trained for my apprenticeship at the Land Rover school in Sydney, others are not so lucky. I can guarantee there are a lot of techs out there who don't know a lot about how the cars actually work, a lot don't care either.

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An interesting comment; is there a way to find out which dealership has properly trained technicians? I'm considering the D4, and with all the talk of turbo problems, I'm wondering if I should wait for the problem to be fixed before considering the D4.

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Originally Posted by phl

An interesting comment; is there a way to find out which dealership has properly trained technicians? I'm considering the D4, and with all the talk of turbo problems, I'm wondering if I should wait for the problem to be fixed before considering the D4.

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Hi,

I'm not sure what the answer is for you. Apparently I now have a modified turbo and feeder system for said turbo....for whatever that is worth.

I haven't heard or read of anything on this forum of anything other than over-pressurised secondary turbos, as in from people who actually own a D4.

What the new builds have had done to them, I'm unsure and haven't read anything to suggest the problem has been fixed or hasn't been. There have been TC upgrades, etc...and that was awesome before, so you'd hope a problem child issue would have been addressed pronto! There are shed loads of D4s on the road (and RRS with the same engine...I think?) in Aus now and yet there are about 20'ish reported turbo problems on this forum....I'm sure there are more around but....

My experience black and white...

First turbo....I didn't even know there was a problem...miniscule oil leak. Probably would have driven for years like that.

Second turbo....more oil, as in drops on the floor. Still would have run for months without an issue...or longer I imagine.

The oil is breaching a seal due to overpressure above 2500rpm and only under certain circumstances...it doesn't cause a massive failure, seal flexes, oil vents, trickles and drips out and the car reseals and stops leaking once the engine is turned off. I had no obvious oil usage.

Warranty fix...2 days....car back!

My thoughts about it....****s me no end! My next car....D4 or RRS.....drive all the others off and on road....you'll see what I mean. :)

I guess if I stick to MY13, they should hopefully have fixed the problem.

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Originally Posted by phl

I guess if I stick to MY13, they should hopefully have fixed the problem.

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I dunno......it doesn't sound like all (even original builds) were afflicted, but unfortunately there isn't enough evidence on this site to suggest that there is actually a modified turbo.

If there was a clear way of demonstrating a part number change, etc, it would help a hell of a lot....but all we have is heresay!

Frankly, if it's a worldwide issue, LR would be nuts not to work a fix!

Buy one.....go for it!!!

Cheers,

Kev.

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Originally Posted by phl

An interesting comment; is there a way to find out which dealership has properly trained technicians? I'm considering the D4, and with all the talk of turbo problems, I'm wondering if I should wait for the problem to be fixed before considering the D4.

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I'd take LRTech23s comments with a grain of salt...

The LR Dealers Technicians are NOT allowed to work on a vehicle they haven't been trained on.

Never done the factory Evoque training - You cant touch one.
D4 trained - Get to work....

And so on and so on...

Yeah well I'm an apprentice and I touch evoques all the time, as do other techs who arnt level 3 I would like to say that's not what actually happens, but it is.

You need to be level 3 to touch an Evoque, you don't technically need to do the Evoque training