Thread: 2013 D4 Information

Well said Kev

Got to add....

Just picked up my son from a mate's place. They had a guest there who is a Toyota Vendor...a very successful one. They had a brand new LC200, with everything under the sun fitted. It is a very, very nice car. But getting back to my earlier point....you just really wouldn't want to get it dirty...especially inside. It's also noisy as hell and still has the back row seats on the sides..

Originally Posted by Family Traveller

BenD4 are you going through Melb City for you 2013.
I haven't heard a thing and I emailed for a update last month.
I'm hoping my HSE comes through in the first batch however some of my options might hold it back.

No mate, Port Macquarie?

What option's do you think is holding yours up?

I ordered mine in June with a lot of options (e-diff, Hi-Ice, Vision Pack) just to name a few.

Originally Posted by Celtoid

I'm wondering about your comments Terry.

I think back to the days of older Jags and BMW, etc, etc. They didn't actually offer a lot of fruit...as in a Calais had just as much. However, when you got in a European car, there was always something about them...I think it affected the human psyche. Probably better known as brand snobbery....

Jap cars and less prestigeous European marques have more bells and whistles than my wife's new Merc.....(same applies to BMW, etc)....yet the more posh () cars still sell very, very well. I assume every sale is a massive profit for Merc and others.

I just wonder if LR will need to bow to the sales figures of other manufacturers when they currently could sell more LRs than they can make. I wonder if they bank on certain people feeling that others bought the Jeep 'cause they couldn't afford the Land Rover Discovery 4.

I know the Toyo equation s a bit of a spanner in the works to that arguement but I think they commanded a loyal following and are now screwing them. Maybe it's cause I love my LR but when I looked at my mate's Prado (same year as my D4), his interior just didn't look anywhere near as good. All leather like mine but just not the same. I thought the same about the LC200 I looked over recently. Very nice...but not quite the same.

I remember how incredibly good my D4 looked when I picked it up off the show room but it still had way less to offer than other cheaper cars...in the way of gadgets etc. The catch-cry was....you didn't buy it for the fruit, you bought it because it's a LR and is by far the most awarded 4WD in the world. The inferrance that the other gear was low laying fruit....easy to please type offerings.

This is not my opinion, I'm just speculating.

Another side though...

I recently hired an XC90 for a month in the UK......very nice well appointed car. The D4 **** all over it in performance, smoothness and ride but internally it kicked arse. However, I couldn't help wondering what it would look like inside if I did to it, what I've done to my D4. The Discos look pretty flash but they are pretty durable inside and clean really well...I wonder if that can be said for the others?

Cheers,

Kev.

I accept and agree with much of what you have said Kev, however why not go test drive a diesel Overland model yourself and then report back if its just a case of the new Jeep just being full of fancy gizmo's and little else? You may get a bit of a surprise at how good they are, anyway once you have driven one you will know one way or the other if they are any good.

The Overland model with air suspension is a really nice drive to say the least, the Limited and or Laredo models with coil springs drives ok at best in my opinion.

One thing though the new Jeep GC is no Toyota truck it seriously is a big step up from one of them.

I have no plans to get rid of the D3 just yet for either a D4 or a Jeep, in fact just ordered a rear wheel carrier, winch, rock sliders and will have them and some other goodies fitted in one weeks time along with a ARB bar and spotties.

cheers,
Terry

I find in the Jeep my feet have nowhere to go!

That tunnel is so restrictive.

Originally Posted by Tombie

I find in the Jeep my feet have nowhere to go!

That tunnel is so restrictive.

I was told you have very big feet ...

Actually your correct there is not a lot of room next to the transmission tunnel.


cheers,
Terry

Originally Posted by TerryO

I accept and agree with much of what you have said Kev, however why not go test drive a diesel Overland model yourself and then report back if its just a case of the new Jeep just being full of fancy gizmo's and little else? You may get a bit of a surprise at how good they are, anyway once you have driven one you will know one way or the other if they are any good.

The Overland model with air suspension is a really nice drive to say the least, the Limited and or Laredo models with coil springs drives ok at best in my opinion.

One thing though the new Jeep GC is no Toyota truck it seriously is a big step up from one of them.

I have no plans to get rid of the D3 just yet for either a D4 or a Jeep, in fact just ordered a rear wheel carrier, winch, rock sliders and will have them and some other goodies fitted in one weeks time along with a ARB bar and spotties.

cheers,
Terry

Thanks Terry. I've never seen a new GC in the flesh...well not inside. And last night was the first time I'd seen a brand new LC200 (with everything...and I mean everything...super soft textured leather seats with a/c flowing through them...full entertainment TV system, etc, etc).

The LC is very nice looking car (a bloody expensive one too I might add) and from all accounts so is the Jeep. But that wasn't the point I was making.

Right near the end I said it wasn't my opinion.....just speculating that regardless of how good the Jeep is, Brand Snobbery or some other emotive reasoning may prevent the D4 from being threatened on the sales front.

I guess time will tell, if LR start producing more than they can sell, that may force a rethink.

Cheers,

Kev

I was told the E Diff would hold it up....
As for options I ticked pretty much all the boxes apart from the cooler box as I have a 230 Litre fridge in the van.
Entertainment pack for the kids for the long trips, Cold Climate pack for the trips up to the Highlands, Logic 7 because I love my music, Surround Cameras, Vision assist, 20 inch 10 split spokes, Nara Bronze, upgrade leather, privacy glass and a few things from the accessories list.