2010 3L vs 2011 2.7

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Originally Posted by roamer

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Originally Posted by SBD4

A single turbo "detuned" 3.0l replaces the 2.7l as of MY13.

Brads advice is good in my book.

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Single turbo... I do not think so... Not on a 3lt, why reintroduce turbo lag? :wallbash:

Come on Sniegy clear it up, please

From Car Adice 2/oct/2012
"Headlining the 2013 Land Rover Discovery 4 upgrade is the introduction of a new twin-turbocharged 3.0-litre V6 diesel engine to the entry-level model, which replaces the long-serving 2.7-litre turbo diesel unit. Power rises to 155kW (up 15kW) while torque now peaks at an impressive 520Nm (from 2000rpm), up 80Nm over the old engine."

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Ken, You are right, both MY13 3.0ltr variants are twin turbo This also confirms it:

No more 2.7L Discovery 4, two choices of 3.0L | 4WD Book & 4X4 News

Don't know where I got the (mis)information from originally. (head slap)

As far as i know, it will be the twin turbo version of what is being used now, but programmed differently.
I have been very ill this last week & i know specs have been dropped at work & will endeavour to digest as much info. as possible.

So stay tuned.

If someone is looking at a 2.7 vs 3.0 I could think of a couple of points.

First , if something goes wrong with the turbo of a 2.7 is it the same entire body off job as a 3.0?


For my puposes of touring it would be 2.7 every time as they can take 17 inch wheels, which LT tyres are readily available for and cheaper.

Of course if the buyer has PLENTY of money once the warranty runs out , and only is going to use it in populated areas forget the above.

AND buy an extended warranty that covers turbo failure if possible.
Regards Philip A

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Originally Posted by Duke4

I haven't seen one person who has the 3lt recommend you go the 2.7 what does that tell you?

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They don't know what they have missed out on:p

I was only speaking from an offroading/ touring perspective. 2.7 allows 17 inch rim and tyre selections, and chipped they are more than adequate for towing big vans etc.

The 3litre is a formidable engine, but limited tyre choices and some turbo issues have made me mention the pick is a 2.7 version IF IT WAS ME, by all means it is only my opinion.

JC

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Originally Posted by justinc

I was only speaking from an offroading/ touring perspective. 2.7 allows 17 inch rim and tyre selections, and chipped they are more than adequate for towing big vans etc.

The 3litre is a formidable engine, but limited tyre choices and some turbo issues have made me mention the pick is a 2.7 version IF IT WAS ME, by all means it is only my opinion.

JC

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Interesting, we never had a D3 because the 2.7 has that elastic band on the back of the motor. As soon as the 3.0 came out though we got one. Thats another perspective of differing maintenance.

@brad - who did you do the Landrover training trough would be also quite interested doing that.

Had the compulsory training with my 4x4 club near Lithgow today 1 Disco 3 (mine) several Toyota cruisers and Prados and I'm quite happy with the outcome did not get stuck and took every track first time where half of the other cars needed a second try.

At the end when we aired up again got Suspension Fault "Normal Height" which I could not get cleared so will need to get that sorted. Luckily happened at the end as otherwise the day would have been wasted.

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Originally Posted by MR LR jnr.

Interesting, we never had a D3 because the 2.7 has that elastic band on the back of the motor. As soon as the 3.0 came out though we got one. Thats another perspective of differing maintenance.

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I have always wondered why they went back to belts,when many engines have gone the other way?

Earth to JC?or Sneigy

But at least they only have to be done at 160k or 7yrs.Still a PITA.

Umm,on the UK site the lower powered 3l is called a tdv6,where the other higher powered engine is called a sdv6.

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Originally Posted by Steve223

@brad - who did you do the Landrover training trough would be also quite interested doing that.

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John from Getabout (getabout.edu.au), organised via LROC. I say "Land Rover training" because the course was for LR vehicles only, taught how best to use the various LR features (modes etc), and because John's business will be running the Land Rover Experience stuff when it kicks off here, hopefully early next year.

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Originally Posted by Domlis

So last question
2010 3L with 70,000 With E-diff or 2011 2.7 with 30,000 same price.. We are really torn we like the newer with low Kms but the older one has the 3L. Any suggestions

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Interesting range of responses.

Personally, I havie not driven the 3.0 and do not feel any need to justify my a purchasing decision. Regardless I would get the 2.7.

I am sure the 3.0 is fantastic, however as I have said many times before I have never once felt under powered with the 2.7 and I do like to move things along.

I do not tow so that is a not a factor for me.

I own a second car that is a small, light and fast so when I get into the D3 I understand it is a 2,5+t 4wd so accept that it has some limitations in handling dynamics and performance, as such I see no need to have more power.

A 40,000km difference would influence me, as already mentioned at 70,000 you are a year or two away from major services and potential costs, at 30,000km that is an extra couple of years away.

Provided you do not plan to do any really serious off road work the e-diff is not 100% necessary, nice to have but not critical.

Purely my opinion and as state I have not driven the 3.0lt and maybe they are that much better!! i would go and drive both if i were you.

George