AT3 in the size tested is LT...
All tyres have same load rating, were at same pressures on same model 7.5" rim.
All were 265-75-16
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AT3 in the size tested is LT...
All tyres have same load rating, were at same pressures on same model 7.5" rim.
All were 265-75-16
Ok. Just had a call back from Bridgestone tech.
Last time I called within the last 12 months they had a tech department, this time I had to leave my number and wait for a call back.
Just had second call back in the middle of typing this.
The info I just received is based on the D697 285/60-18
It's an 8ply LT with a 2 ply sidewall 1,500 denier each ply so a total of 3,000 denier.
So the D697 achieves the same thickness sidewall as BFG in 2 ply as opposed to BFG 3ply.
Speed and load ratings are the same as the BFG KO2. Which is 118 S
The Bridgestone tech rep exampled the BGF & Coopers as the benchmark, this is what they compare their tyres to.
So Offroad ability he said the D697 are " just as good as BFG" but did not claim they were better.
On road he said they were "just as good if not better"
He claimed that they were definitely more quiet than the two competitors.
I'm still convinced from experience, tyre load and ply that the Cooper ST Maxx are far superior but I have to leave this one out of the equation as they don't have my size.
So the toss up for me and most others looking will be BGF KO2 vs D697 mmmmm?
Load and speed ratings are the same, denier sidewall thickness is the same just achieved different. The D697 are more quiet but from the conversation I had with rep he still didn't convince me they were better Offroad.
Let me see, now we are comparing these two to go on a D4 which is a luxury vehicle. I believe the D697 would handle road conditions wet or dry better than the BFG, just by looking at them you can tell, they almost look like a highway tyre.
We know they are more quiet.
So at the end of the day the conservative smart choice would be the D697 as most of us spend most of our time on road. But who said I was smart :)
The aggressiveness of the BFG IMOP would have the edge in the rough stuff, but wheel placement and care could make up for that?
Mmmmm? The BFG do look good with there new design sidewall. Choices choices choices.
Let me know your thoughts?
The only thing hanging over BFG's head at the moment is those few bad reviews on the new version KO2. ?????
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We run both BFG ATs and 697s on the Toyotas at work. On road the Bridgestones are far superior.
The BFGs have chipped badly, and are crap in sloppy mud. They slipped all about the place after the wet in Nyngan but then again so did every tyre out there.
I had the duelers slip a bit in very thick sloppy mud but they still pulled through it fine with a measured amount of right boot.
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So when i found out it was going to cost me between $1680-1900 for a single rwc this happenedhttps://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...016/06/204.jpg
So they DO fit under a D4 without removing the heat shield. I just had to angle the front side in first then squeeze it up past the tow point in increments. Few turns then a push repeat x 4...
Also i guarantee you will struggle to do what i just did with your spare if you have other brands. There's no way i could flex the General Grabbers that much with my foot... There's zero give in those.
In 285 60 that is
Did you have to deflate it???
Can you still fit the tow hitch and safety chains????
Cheers
Andrew
Well i think so Andy... That's all I've got. There's no extra room at the back that's all as tyres hard up. https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...016/06/202.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by LandyAndy
Tyre is flat yep. Air compressor permanently in the back anyway though.
https://www.aulro.com/afvb/images/im...016/06/203.jpg
Easiest tick off the list so far that one.
Babs.
What about the Maxxis AT 980 in 265/60/18?
Kero.
There also seems to be a massive price difference between the two,which would push many to the 697's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Babs
But for me,i would probably stay with what i know,why fix something that isn't broke.And the price difference is a fair bit less in 17's,that is if i stay with that size.
I decision i have to make in the next few months,as the tyres on mine are just about shagged.
Watching this thread with interest.
17" gives you a better choice in Australia.We need to start using these importers to get the tyres we want.
My good mate Ron (Tailslide) just bought a new Deefer and spare steel rim.He couldnt get a new matching MTR in 235/85x16 in australia.,I had an old brand new spare plus 2 on the camper trailer that havent done more than 4000km,wasnt looking to sell him my spare so I looked them up and Tyroola who come up in our pop ups,they had them.Sent him the link,took just over a week for it to turn up.Ron is happy.
Seen lots of tyres on there we dont get,like 18" duratrac in LT.Have a look see.
Andrew