Thread: Suspension + DSC + handbrake + brake warning lights

I am surprised that such clever blokes as Graeme and Gordon haven't come up with something to stop the car dropping to the bump stops for faults that do not even involve the suspension.

I can't believe that LR think it is necessary to drop the car to the bump stops when it detects failures. This must be one of the worst "features" of our cars. It needs a proper fail safe for all of its systems that can get you home, not something that causes you more grief than the original failure. We need a clever software engineer to change this for us.

Bob

Originally Posted by BobD

I am surprised that such clever blokes as Graeme and Gordon haven't come up with something to stop the car dropping to the bump stops for faults that do not even involve the suspension.

Gordon does have a kit to pump it back up when it does drop .

Likewise LLAMs has a raise function but I am not sure it would work in this case - Graeme this is you queue to come in and tell us what the emergency function in LLAMs works for.

Garry

Yes, and I have the GOE emergency pump up kit.

Would be nice if Llams would over ride the software but I'm not sure if it does. We'll see what Graeme has to say about it.

Bob

LLAMS recovery mode might work in this situation. From the LLAMS thread in the Verandah section

A minor feature has been added to Llams - "recovery mode". It is to provide off-road height when the suspension system has lowered the vehicle to a "safe" height due to a reported ABS fault. The original Llams at +50 provides only about normal height, which might not be high enough if an ABS fault occurrs when at off-road height and really needed.

Garry

Another good reason to have Llams!

Graeme, can you confirm that Llams can be used to raise the car in the event of the twin failures that Gordon was referring to? We just need to have the instructions on us to understand how to use the extra push button on the latest Llams to get these extra features when needed.

Bob

The Llams instructions for recovery mode are on page 2 here
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment...ions-2.0.5.pdf

But it only says from safe height @ access height.

If the car has faulted such that it is on the bump stops and won't raise on a restart, then the EAS is disabled. Playing with the sensor voltages, either via LLAMS or rods won't raise the vehicle.

Cheers,

Gordon

Originally Posted by gghaggis

Two simultaneous faults would drop it to the bump-stops, eg ABS sensor + brake switch.

There's no mention in the 2007 suspension system documentation that multiple ABS ecu-reported faults is treated any differently to a single fault. Perhaps conditions were omitted from that documentation or have been introduced since.

Did the suspension rise after a restart or did it stay permanently on the stops until the 2 faults were fixed?