Thread: Thinking of trading in the Discovery 3 for a new Defender

Originally Posted by ozscott

Oh dear...as recent as 4 months ago people still dont know what they are doing..http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/...sand-help.html

DSC off tyres way way down...what are they doing wrong cause it couldn't be the car. Must be the driver! Ohh...he is very experienced... As long as it is recognised that as excellent as the d4 is on road and as competent as it is off road it doesnt do everything off road as well a Deefer or for that matter older lighter discos with higher profile tyres and smaller rims we have no disagreement in the end. Happy days!

Cheers

Yes, they are still learning - the D3/D4 is very different to almost every other 4WD on the road (until very recently), and so there is a constant stream of people getting into difficulty. Hence our input here on the forum. And whilst I understand you're being flippant, a little tedious (you've been banging this drum since 2006, when you kept claiming you were "looking" at buying a D3) and generally "stirring the pot", that attitude does little to help or bolster the confidence of newbies taking their brand new D4 out for the first time.

A stock D4 will run rings around a stock D2 - V8, manual or otherwise. Simple. Get over it. Now where's the popcorn .............

Cheers,

Gordon

Originally Posted by chuck

Well I hope it (D4) goes well in sand because I have just booked a week at Carpenters Rocks in SA for Christmas.

Spectacular bit of coast.

Dont know if I will be able to afford Gordons rims by then

From memory I should be able to go down to 16 on 19" GG AT's???

I should be OK because my son, daughter in law & grandkids are coming with well sorted D2a with winch & 255 x 85's

16 psi is okay on the 19" rims (14 if required) - just be aware of wheel placement and rocks on the track.

Cheers,

Gordon

Its not just reports on this forum...in any event I was looking...but not anymore and instead kept my d2 a decision I feel pleased with every day...

I am hoping the next Defender is low weight and with sensible rims and any upgrade will likely be to that (or to a sedan and keep the Disco 2 animal for off road and towing duties. Its not about I knocking confidence of new owners...its about addressing claims on here that are a stretch for the sake of current owners and people thinking of buying.

You didnt way in on that fellows thread...so what was he doing wrong. Does he have to do a driver training course perhaps.

Cheers

Scott you do tend to spend quite a lot of time in here having cheap shots at D3/4's when you get a chance.
Sure a D2 is a good thing, I should know I own one as well, but why always the negative?

You have decided not to buy one and keep your D2 and thats fine, so why don't we leave it at that.

cheers,
Terry

Originally Posted by chuck

Well I hope it (D4) goes well in sand because I have just booked a week at Carpenters Rocks in SA for Christmas.

Spectacular bit of coast.

Dont know if I will be able to afford Gordons rims by then

From memory I should be able to go down to 16 on 19" GG AT's???

I should be OK because my son, daughter in law & grandkids are coming with well sorted D2a with winch & 255 x 85's

I have been down to 10psi on factory 19's on one of the largest dunes in wa. Dsc off, low range, sand mode, and don't plant your foot....light throttle is more than enough and dsc will not kick in, just don't be tempted to plant it.
Careful over rocks, and tree roots with those pressures though...the rims will almost touch the obstruction.
The D4 is now the best sand terrain vehicle I have driven....once you get it sussed.

Brett...

Terry quite a few of my posts above hav considerable positives. The d4 is remarkable. But the question from the OP asked for a comparison. I dont accept the comments from the likes of Gordon that it is in effect the best LR for ever situation. It gets a bit testy when Gordo and I weigh in so given that he is the Go To guy on the d4 board and in the interests of keeping every d4 owners confidence levels up I will not post on here unless its purely constructive. ..ie no negative sides to the d4.

Cheers!

Originally Posted by chuck

Well I hope it (D4) goes well in sand because I have just booked a week at Carpenters Rocks in SA for Christmas.

Spectacular bit of coast.

Dont know if I will be able to afford Gordons rims by then

From memory I should be able to go down to 16 on 19" GG AT's???

I should be OK because my son, daughter in law & grandkids are coming with well sorted D2a with winch & 255 x 85's

Hi Chuck
You will not find the driving to hard in and around Carpenter Rock so if you take a run up the coast a bit and try some of the Beach Port to Robe tracks, there a bit more challenging.
Yes it is a beautifull bit of coast , spent a fair bit of time down there dont forget to pack the fishing rods too.

connock

Originally Posted by ozscott

Terry quite a few of my posts above hav considerable positives. The d4 is remarkable. But the question from the OP asked for a comparison. I dont accept the comments from the likes of Gordon that it is in effect the best LR for ever situation. It gets a bit testy when Gordo and I weigh in so given that he is the Go To guy on the d4 board and in the interests of keeping every d4 owners confidence levels up I will not post on here unless its purely constructive. ..ie no negative sides to the d4.

Cheers!

Hi Scott, there is no problem with anyone having their say, be it either positive or negative, but this conversation was well on its way to being narky.

Debates about facts or actual observations is great but pointed cheap shots only ever lead to blues. The other mods jokingly call the D3/4/RRS area the scary place, in part because there were so many arguments and blues that used to happen in here in the past, thankfully that is rear now and I think no one wants to see it return.

I would ask you not to stop commenting in here as you do add value to the conversation, anyway moving on, I thought you were meant to be sharing some Tassie beers with Gordon when he next visits Queensland? ...

Besides all Disco owners should stick together, everyone knows its those pesky Neanderthal Defender drivers that are the real enemy of modern civilisation and who can't stand the idea of anyone owning a decent modern 4x4 ...


cheers,
Terry