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And financially way,way ahead:DQuote:
Originally Posted by rick130
i drive the sons deefer every now and again,couldn't do it all the time after the D4 or even the D2.
But for remote area travel,hard 4WDing,it wins all the time,and resale is MUCH better than any Disco.
I had a defender ute and now a d2 td5 and contantly looking for another defender to get back into, there not that uncomfortable, i found it great to travel in especially when my ute before it was a leaf sprung cruiser, go drive one of them and the deefer rides like a cloud. i could imagine taller blokes could find the fender tight
To add to what I said earlier,,
The biggest problem I have in the Defender is clutching all the time. For the 15+ years I've driven an auto, I also have a "Dickie" knee, so driving in the city is hard sometimes. This is really only a problem when I've already been behind the wheel all day.
Bucket loads of character. My d2 5sp manual v8 has it on 31's with a moded exhaust. . Truck feel but not a leaf spring truck feel. Surprisingly comfortable. Hope your also asking this question in the Deefer section...
Cheers
I thought I'd like one until I drove one.. No good to those who are horizontally challenged... I'd have to cut my right arm off :)
Was drivable for me with the window down.. So I could stick my elbow out...
Must be getting old and soft :)
Went D1 to Def to D2 and D4.
Do I enjoy driving Defenders - Yes...
Would I have another - Yes...
Would I get rid of a D3/D4 to have it... No bloody way :p
Would I park it next to the D3/D4... Absolutely :D
It has always been my dream vehicle but I too found it ergonomically challenging. I'm 6'4 and nowhere to put your right arm, same issue had to have the window down. Seat leg room can be fixed with aftermarket rail runners, but sideways? The poms don't like to change much in the Defenders. Maybe they are all short?? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by djambalawa
But seriously, they should look at it……please?
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Originally Posted by AnD3rew
Sorry, but that is the funniest thing I have read all week.
A stock D90 or D110 runs rings around a stock D3 offroad. More ground clearance, better wheel travel, better approach and departure angles.
I have idled up hills in my 110 (unlocked) that D3s and D4s struggled with (due to tyres and ground clearance) - but eventually got up on the 5th or 6th attempt.
Not to say the OP should change vehicles, but seriously, take off the blinkers...
I think the deefer is very capable offroad, but there are quite a few youtube videos that suggest the deefer struggles in spots (actually could not make it up) on the Powerlines in Perth, where the D4 and Range Rover sports make it look much easier. The deefer had better wheel travel, but the traction control was not in the same calibre and it just sat there spinning opposite wheels. That's only one example though. I will find the link and work out how to post them on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by isuzurover
I have recently seen a mate in his deefer, easily climbing sand dunes where the rest of us put more hammer down. The skinner tyres stayed perfectly within the compacted tracks of vehicles with bigger tyres and required little effort.
Brett....
I would be keen to see any of the vids you mention... The ones I have seen usually show older (non-etc) defenders vs d3s or d4s...Quote:
Originally Posted by discotwinturbo
The disco certainly has better traction control.
However it doesn't help here against a (non-etc?) D90.
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-epnX58cpQ]Landrover Defender 90 vs Discovery 3 up a steep hill - YouTube[/ame]
The D3 does better here - however the 110 seems to be a V8? (hence non-etc).
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAKI12jDDkA]Defender vs Discovery 3 - YouTube[/ame]