Geez I wish I was in WA–would invite myself along in a heartbeat. If you ever come to Qld Gordon let's get together for a similar run! I like the idea of you putting on the beers.
Cheers
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Geez I wish I was in WA–would invite myself along in a heartbeat. If you ever come to Qld Gordon let's get together for a similar run! I like the idea of you putting on the beers.
Cheers
So not only do I have to face the "unbeatable sand demon", the D2a of Ozscott, but I have to risk drinking Qld beer?? What's in it for me? :angel:Quote:
Originally Posted by ozscott
Seriously mate, if you're so confident, drag your bus over to Big Red in August - we'll have a couple of trailers there you can try out with.
That is, if you haven't bought your D3 by then ;)
Cheers,
Gordon
haha this is funny reading. I didn't realise D3/D4 owners were so SMUG. :wasntme:
Surely if a the new defender is more like a D3/D4 it would a major fail! They were conceived to do completely different things. One is built for agricultural work, a shell that is adaptable to suit many needs and can take a real beating. The other is to ferry family's around in comfort to various out of the way camping spots.
To the OP: Unless you can think of a good enough reason why a defender would cater for your needs better than the D3, you should just stick with the D3.
And as for Defender/D4/RRS off road ability. Fact is given a new model of each you would take the Defender places you wouldn't want to take the others.
Nothing confirmed as yet, it's just www conjecture by a few as no one really knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by OffTrack
And FWIW, why would it bother us ?
Where did the coiler suspension originally come from ?
That's right, it was a car called a Range Rover.
I think they're a little more upmarket than a D3, aren't they :D
So yes, we'd have a right to be upset, we'd be lowering our sights if we just used a T5 platform :angel:
WOW this thread has blown me away a bit, who would have thourght that there was so much rivalry within the green oval.
No manufacrurer has ever built a vehicle that is perfect for every one ( what a boring world that would be ) They all have there good points and bad points, my good points could be your bad etc.
You never here a person saying my road trail bike is better than your road bike
I owned a 130 for 9yrs and drove it every day, loved it and defended it when in discusion with pootrol and rollux drivers with a pasion. Fantastic off road not bad on road, cant really compair it with the D3 I have now as they are completely diferent cars.
I think its a good thing that the Defender is going to be built on the T5 platform, better than just dropping the model all together :( and thats probably the alternative.
There was a uproar when the defender was produced now every one (well most) love it. It has to come up to spec, I think LR will do it right.
Simple fact here in 2 points.
1 a D3/4RRS will eventually start to have oil leaks and dust leaks etc ( to be fair so will all makes) so in few years time will definitely not be as new.
2 A defender has oil leaks and dust leaks from the factory.
Therefore if placed on a sale lot the D3/4RRS will obviously present as used and needing work,
Therefore a used Defender will still be "as new" and obviously the better choice.
Not to mention the spilt low fat Soy Latte stains on the non defender vehicles may be difficult to differentiate from soiling experienced by the driver having to negotiate minor road works on the freeway.:-0
Damn.Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryO
I love a good Macchiatto or latté too
My favourite café roast their own beans.
I teach yoga wearing skimpy little fitted shorts.
Does this men I have to trade down to a D3/D4 ? :(
If I was drinking one it would have been sprayed all over the screen :DQuote:
Originally Posted by strangy
BTW, you forgot how a Deefer doens't come with a s straight panel anywhere, or as SWMBO says, it comes from the factory with cellulite ;) (as you'd expect a Patrol driver to say)
Pitty August is the busiest time for me at work. Sounds like fun though. If we had the challenge is Qld and I couldn't get you RR stuck on the beach I would stretch to Tassie beers... And I'm a tight are so that's saying something. Seriously though I am looking forward to the trip report.Quote:
Originally Posted by gghaggis
Cheers
Good Lord .....what a can of worms.....