Thread: D4 vs L200 in a drag...

I think some of you people are suffering from wishful thinking.

While the Toyo weighs 200kg more than a base D4 is is about the same weight as a D4 Se/HSE. It has 15kw more power and 51 more NMs. So just looking at those figures the LC200 should be quicker 0-100kph.

0-100kph for the LC200 is 8.2s (TOYOTA Land Cruiser 200 / V8 4.5 V8 D-4D (286 HP) (2007 - Present) Technical Specifications & Features)

0-100kph for the 180kw 3.0 D4 is 10.7s (Discovery 4 TDV6 4x4 Turbo Diesel Efficiency | Land Rover Australia)

So the LC200 is over 2.5s faster 0-100kph. Not even the 200kg lighter Range Rover Sport can match the LC200 with a 0-100 time of 9.3s.

Garry

Looking at the specs, the LC200 is 200kg heavier than the HSE (both from manufacturer's site comparing the Sahara to the HSE), but has 12kW more power, and 50Nm more torque. I suspect power to weight, the D4 wins, and it also has a flatter torque curve, and less inertia to overcome.

Originally Posted by garrycol

I think some of you people are suffering from wishful thinking.

While the Toyo weighs 200kg more than a base D4 is is about the same weight as a D4 Se/HSE. It has 15kw more power and 51 more NMs. So just looking at those figures the LC200 should be quicker 0-100kph.

0-100kph for the LC200 is 8.2s (TOYOTA Land Cruiser 200 / V8 4.5 V8 D-4D (286 HP) (2007 - Present) Technical Specifications & Features)

0-100kph for the 180kw 3.0 D4 is 10.7s (Discovery 4 TDV6 4x4 Turbo Diesel Efficiency | Land Rover Australia)

So the LC200 is over 2.5s faster 0-100kph. Not even the 200kg lighter Range Rover Sport can match the LC200 with a 0-100 time of 9.3s.

Garry

Garry, you are comparing the bottom spec D4. lets compare V8 with V8:

155Kw D4 is 10.7s 0.100kpk
180Kw D4 is 9.3s 0-100kph
276Kw D4 is 7.9s 0-100kph

Originally Posted by SBD4

Garry, you are comparing the bottom spec D4. lets compare V8 with V8:

155Kw D4 is 10.7s 0.100kpk
180Kw D4 is 9.3s 0-100kph
276Kw D4 is 7.9s 0-100kph

Yes - my bad but the 180kw D4 is still slower than the LC200 diesel. The original post related to the diesel not the petrol - I agree if you talk petrols then things will most likely be different but petrols are not the subject of the thread.

Garry

Originally Posted by garrycol

Yes - my bad but the 180kw D4 is still slower than the LC200 diesel. The original post related to the diesel not the petrol - I agree if you talk petrols then things will most likely be different but petrols are not the subject of the thread.

Garry

fair enough. Although, comparing the spec sheet for the LC in your link and the one on on Toyotas local site, there seems to be an increase of 15Kw over the local variant - 210 vs 195. Perhaps the 8.2s does not hold true here?

I have driven both 3.0 D4's and diesel V8 200 series. I wouldn't get to cocky about how fast a D4 is in comparison. The Toyota is not slow by any stretch of the imagination. If you guys are beating up on 200 series I'd guess that would come down to how hard the 200 series owner wants to push it.

Also if you think a D4 is quick and can easily blow away all other 4x4's at the lights just don't get to close to a new diesel Grand Cherokee owner who wnts to prove a point or you might get a bit of a shock.

This article LUXURY FAMILY WHEELS: Large/Offroad SUVs - motoring.com.au shows the 0 - 100 Kph time for the LC 200 @ 10.5 seconds which is more realistic.
The power to weight thing is a bit deceiving some times. Keep in mind the power & torque figures are at the flywheel and not what is being delivered to the wheels.
I read an interesting article a while ago in Overlander magazine, where they did a comparison of flywheel power figures compared to 'at the wheel' figures. The Discovery had the best ratio out of the four vehicles tested.

Cheers, Craig

I have a mate with a LC 200 with a Roo Systems chip and exhaust it is really quick.
Cheers