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I read somewhere that in Queensland there are legal isssues in fitting cargo barriers if there are seats in the rear.
No matter what if you have passengers in the rear you would have to remove the cargo barrier, it would be way to unsafe if you needed to get passengers out urgently.
Cheers
Mike
They may be thinking of the dog guards being used as cargo barriers, for which they are not rated for.
I think it is illegal to have anyone in the rear passenger seats if the cargo barrier is up.
I had assumed the seats in the back would be permanently down...I can understand its illegal if seats are up and being used, but I can't imagine anyone ever doing that :o when it's a 5 minute job to remove the cargo barrier in mine if we do need the extra seats. ;)
So a dog guard is not a cargo barrier? I got the dog guard not to contain a dog but to protect the backs of our hears from flying boot contents......Quote:
Originally Posted by phl
How is the dog guard rated?
A dog guard while not as good as a full barrier would still be far better than nothing. This thread reminds me that I really need to get a barrier given how much gear I carry in the back of the 3.
Yes, that's what Ritters were saying. They said that the fact that the barrier even offers the possibility to have passengers sitting behind it, with no means of escape makes it illegal - He did mention something about having a glass breaking hammer available might be a solution.Quote:
Originally Posted by discotwinturbo
However, The more I look at it the more it seams that Ritters are perpetuating a myth.
The Vic Roads allowed vehicle modification list that I found here, makes no qualifications about the use of Cargo Barriers, and even more importantly, I checked with my Insurance company, and specifically asked the question whether a claim woule be denied on the basis of installing a cargo barrier in a 7 seater, and they said no. Provided that I advise them of the installation of the cargo barrier - it will be covered.
So the summary seems to be:
[1] It is legal (in Vic)
[2] Advise your insurance company
[3] Don't bother asking Ritters to do it for you. :)
This is the kind of barrier I am looking for. A small door would work well. I have a Milford cargo barrier to fit into my Forester 2004. I was worried about my dog becoming trapped in an emergency and needed an idea to be able to get him out.Quote:
Originally Posted by SBD4
Does anyone have any photos they could show of a barrier with a gate. A much better idea than cutting my Milford in half!
I had one in my Adventra wagon. It was a spring loaded Perspex section in the middle about 300mm wide going from the roof section f the cargo barrier frame to the frame running across the vehicle at seat back height. To stop it rattling there were a couple of Velcro squares at each bottom corner. It was very handy when you needed to fit something long in the back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josubaru
You can see the general arrangement here.
Product Cargo Barriers - Holden - Adventra - 205900
Ritters are using that old latin term "Anus Protectus"Quote:
Originally Posted by BSM
I asked them to fit a Llams controller and straight away said it was illegal!
Well, sounds like they just don't want any litigation should an insurance claim arise. Fully understandable, but they are qualified mechanics/engineers, so wouldn't expect dingy work from them, but moreover they don't want the hassle if someone hurts themselves.
A recent post by someone implied they have revised their stance on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirty3