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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Thoughts please??

    The ARB system used a small air compressor that has a very small inbuild tank (only a few cc) to run its lockers. If the system is fully functional the air compressor only runs when first turned on to pressurise the system and as long as there are no air leaks the compressor does not need to continue running.

    Therefore why couldn't the air suspension system provide the air pressure (with appropriate air switched/reducers) to run the ARB air locker. As long as the locker system retains air pressure there should not really be any load on the air suspension system.

    Your thoughts.

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    Garry
    I don't see why not. There have been reports the OE Air suspension compressors die a quick death when used for tyre inflation, but I don't see why they couldn't run a couple of lockers.

    What pressure does the system operate at?

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    Not sure on D3, D4 or RRS but the L322 is too clever for itself to do this, as if you use any air - even a tiny amount (I found this out after putting the new airbags in because I had a VERY small leak) the car threw a fault straight away and locked out all the suspension. If it sees the pressure drop without it calling for any air, it chucks a wobbly...
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    Why on earth wouldn't you want to have a decent on board compressor that could also be used to pump up your tyres as well as operate your locker?

    I'd be far more interested in considering how to connect my on board ARB compressor to the air suspension reservoir as a back up than trying to use what is at best is a marginal air compressor to do even more work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryO View Post
    Why on earth wouldn't you want to have a decent on board compressor that could also be used to pump up your tyres as well as operate your locker?
    The standard ARB air locker compressor will not pump up tyres - do not get confused between the ARB tyre pumping compressors that have to be modifed with additional gear to work the air lockers and the specific air locker compressor.

    Two very different beasts.

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    The tyre pumping compressor doesn't have to be modified. Just screw in your locker solinoids which come with the lockers and go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    The standard ARB air locker compressor will not pump up tyres - do not get confused between the ARB tyre pumping compressors that have to be modifed with additional gear to work the air lockers and the specific air locker compressor.

    Two very different beasts.

    Garry
    My ARB lockers work off my air suspension (and tyre inflation) compressor...

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    Since I made the 'air up kit' for MB I can say it would be easy to use the main tank for a locker. Early models have a bung at the front of the reservoir later models do not have the bung and you would need to take a "T" piece off the line.
    I do not know what pressure the locker will take but you will probably need a regulator as the tank gets to 240psi!
    It would save some money on the compressor I would think.
    If anyone wants to try I still have some bits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaverD3 View Post
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    I do not know what pressure the locker will take but you will probably need a regulator as the tank gets to 240psi!
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    I vaguely recall Daniel Bongard from ARB telling me that some US comp guys were using 300 psi in their lockers to maximise engagement speed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    The tyre pumping compressor doesn't have to be modified. Just screw in your locker solinoids which come with the lockers and go.
    Thank you Slunnie.

    Having a second compressor that can be hooked up the reservoir full time but with a isolation valve fitted at the reservoir end that is turned off unless needed means there is always a high level of redundency that the standard pretty average system just doesn't have. Again why rely on a compressor that is pretty ordinary to pump up not only your suspension but your new front locker? Lose the compressor and you lose both your suspension and your locker.

    I would have thought this was a bit of a no brainier modification given the often reported problems many D3/4 owners have faced while out in the sticks with their Disco's sitting down on their bump stops.

    That and a GOE emergency inflation kit and 99% of potential suspension issues that would normally have you stuck on the side of the road or worse out in the bush are pretty much totally avoidable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    The standard ARB air locker compressor will not pump up tyres - do not get confused between the ARB tyre pumping compressors that have to be modifed with additional gear to work the air lockers and the specific air locker compressor.

    Two very different beasts.

    Garry
    there is nothing special required to engage lockers......any compressor that will pump to 90 odd PSI will do the job

    i have twin arbs hooked up to a max air compressor

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