4WD Action/Roo Systems acquires a D4... :(

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Originally Posted by TerryO

More than likely pretty well, get a bog stock standard D1 and a bog stock D3/4 and take them off road and see which one is more capable.

I bet the D1 owners would get a terrible shock at how good the late model Disco is and the places it could go easy where they would struggle.

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I completely agree with you, my comment was with regard to which one could take the most punishment.

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Originally Posted by MR LR

I completely agree with you, my comment was with regard to which one could take the most punishment.

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You obviously haven't seen the Land Rover test videos for the D3/4, go have a look at them, the LROC Sydney driver trainer has them.

No Jnr anymore, you 21 now??

Baz.

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Originally Posted by TerryO

I would suggest that if your not mechanically minded then a D1 or even a Defender would pose as many challenges if your stuck up the Cape as a late model Disco would.

As for software updates etc, that is a general maintenance thing, if you don't get your vehicle serviced and checked before you go away then you get what you deserve, whether its a D3/4 or Defender.

D1's and most Defenders are now very old, vehicles don't become more reliable when the get older. From experience I trust my D3 to reliably get me more places and further than I do either my D1 or D2.

Plenty of people who have never owned one like to comment about late model Disco's being unreliable or incapable, I consider that just as daft and narrow minded as the Toymota brigade who rubbish all LR's.

In another words don't knock it till you try it.

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I knew when I made that post there was a chance that someone would get sensitive and get upset, however it was never my intention to offend anyone.

You can get as personal with the insults as you like by calling me daft and narrow minded something I'd never do to anyone I have not met on a internet board (making a judgement about someone you don't know in person in itself shows narrow mindedness) however your insults aside it's hard to argue the fact that it's tough to find a mechanic in a remote area like the Cape that has the skills to work on a truck like a D3 or D4. That was part of my point.

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Originally Posted by ak

That was before land rover put all the high teck electrical stuff in Discovery's, try doing some of that in a D3 or D4 you will break it for sure. If 4wd action is going to drive even a little like that video the D4 won't last very long at all.

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Really? So no one's ever done anything like that in a D3 ..... :angel:

Cheers,

Gordon

Mechanically, a stock D3 or D4 drivetrain is stronger than in any previous LR product. The traditional Achilles heel of LR's has always been the axle/CV strengths, that was until the D3.

Are they as strong as a GU Patrol? Possibly not, but closer than any other LR product, and the electronic trickery of the TR systems reduces the stress on the mechanical components, as opposed to most add-on aftermarket traction aids that increases it.

Most electrical issues can be sorted with a $350 diagnostics box and a few sub-$100 spares. And if you can plug a mouse into a computer, you can use a diagnostic box - it's a myth that you require a degree in Computer Science.

Cheers,

Gordon

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Originally Posted by gghaggis

Really? So no one's every done anything like that in a D3 ..... :angel:

Cheers,

Gordon

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nope, no-one, especially not you Gordon :D

Wow :o this one thread has probably done more damage to the reputation of Disco D3/D4 than 4wd action ever will. To have a bunch of owner show such little faith in their vehicle makes me wonder why I brought one.

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Originally Posted by ak

I knew when I made that post there was a chance that someone would get sensitive and get upset, however it was never my intention to offend anyone.

You can get as personal with the insults as you like by calling me daft and narrow minded something I'd never do to anyone I have not met on a internet board (making a judgement about someone you don't know in person in itself shows narrow mindedness) however your insults aside it's hard to argue the fact that it's tough to find a mechanic in a remote area like the Cape that has the skills to work on a truck like a D3 or D4. That was part of my point.

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Actually I wasn't saying you were daft or trying to insult you. I had moved on from dealing with your comment and I was generalising about often aired opinions from people who have no experience with late model Disco's.

In this instance you have taken my open ended comments and decided you fell into that category and taken offence.

Few D3/4 owners ever get into these debates about the capabilities of their vehicles of choice and I reckon thats because they are happy knowing the truth and don't give a stuff what others who have never owned one think.

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Originally Posted by gossamer

Wow :o this one thread has probably done more damage to the reputation of Disco D3/D4 than 4wd action ever will. To have a bunch of owner show such little faith in their vehicle makes me wonder why I brought one.

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Yes and that ****s more than any Cruiser or Nissan driver will.

Before you bag the off road toughness of the vehicle you drive, take it off road, not down to the local woolies or school or average gravel road and as for you other so called Land Rover enthusiast, what is the matter with you:spudnikwhat:

Go away

Baz.

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Originally Posted by gossamer

Wow :o this one thread has probably done more damage to the reputation of Disco D3/D4 than 4wd action ever will. To have a bunch of owner show such little faith in their vehicle makes me wonder why I brought one.

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I wouldn't worry about it unless the comments were being made by D3/4 owners, however from what I can see the majority, if not all, of the knockers own Defenders, early Disco's or P38's and have never owned or are likely to own a late model Disco.