Thread: 4WD Action/Roo Systems acquires a D4... :(

It never ceases to amuse me how 4wd mags will compare say two different vehicles over the same ground,but they will have different tyres!I dont care how many traction aids or kw you have,if you are on road tyres up a steep muddy track,your stuffed.I can understand the d1 boys being wary of the d3/4s electronics,not saying its based on fact,but the KISS principle still applies.You get the same with tdi versus td5,the fact is all newer vehicles are packed full of electronics,so we better get used to the idea.Ive only ever driven rr classics and deefers off road,but id love to try a new disco.As to the verbal slanging matches on this forum,just rember we all love land rovers and are all on the same side!Its us against the nissotas

Originally Posted by AnD3rew

This is anecdotal and one off experience I know, but I went on a club day with a bunch of deefers (which I love and am not trash talking). And on one very steep rocky section of track with a big slippery step near the top two of the deefers broke CV joints my D3 crawled up no worries. I attribute this to the deefers having to hit it at a bit of speed to get over it and the D3 can just walk up to it and then slowly over it. This enables the car to go just as far but with less stress on components.

Also of course a matter of age and luck, several other deefers made it up without drama so it is not conclusive but I found it interesting. There were a few hairy sections on that trip with waterholes, thick mud, rocks etc etc. there was nothing the deefers did my D3 couldn't do.

On the Lithgow day organized by TerryO where there were 25 or so D3/4's and 1 RRS there was only one casualty and there were some good challenges not all of which I attempted, but it was amazed what these vehicles are capable of.

Mine is set up primarily for touring but it can still cut it in the rough stuff for a bit of a play.

That particular section of track isn't that difficult,and would only rate at Grade C at best and can be driven by standard vehicles from all the major playersAs shown by the fact that Andrew was able to drive it in his Patrol.
Nick broke a cv when he put his boot into a standard open diff Defender.Standard Land Rover failures over the years,heavy right boot and weak standard components.

Wow - wasn't expecting a slanging match... But a lot of interesting discussion. The breakage I am concerned for is its components that aren't common, due to their way of driving. But I can honestly say for the two years I had my D3 I took it through incredible challenges and not at the most respectful way as I was learning the hard way how these rigs like to be driven. Once I learnt it was incredible to see it perform.

Anyone wanting to see good comparisons between Marques and models just search YouTube for Misadventure 4WD TV - you will thoroughly enjoy the hours of video you can view.

Ps. I can't stand how Roothy pronounces Land Rover as " Lan drover" bloody annoying.
Regards
Robbo

I will have to watch the way I pronounce Lan drover from now on.

Originally Posted by LowRanger

That particular section of track isn't that difficult,and would only rate at Grade C at best and can be driven by standard vehicles from all the major playersAs shown by the fact that Andrew was able to drive it in his Patrol.
Nick broke a cv when he put his boot into a standard open diff Defender.Standard Land Rover failures over the years,heavy right boot and weak standard components.

That was exactly my point, the D3 with traction aids but no lockers crawled over it easily, the deefers with open diffs had to hit it harder to get over it which caused two of them to break. It may not overall have been that tough a track but that particular bit of the hill with that rock ledge was a tricky bit.

Bloody hell, this thread had taken a strange and ugly turn !!!

Whilst I buy the odd the 4WDA mag, I quite like watching the videos, the mag itself I find to be generally hopeless and simply a glorified catalogue for anything vaguely related to 4wding and camping.

But as I am not a 20 yr apprentice looking to build my 1990's hilux into a quasi comp truck with three of my mate doing all the spanner work on a budget of $1,000 I am not their target market.

Now Glenn at Roo System owning a D4, awesome.

I for 1 think it will go a bloody long way to dispelling much of the negative perceptions surrounding the capability and reliability of the brand, even if it is to an audience that is most unlikely to ever own one.

I assume most on this section of the forum and more widely on the site have seen the great YouTube channel "Misadventure 4wd".

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmc...XuB0i2R7_oFqlg

Jimmy Salsa (I think that is what Jamie calls himself these days on the forum) and Chris (Mini bloodhound) and others drive their RRS and D4 together with Kev in his awesome V8 D2, as well and Toyota's, Mitsubishi Triton etc up and down some bloody impressive tracks and consistently the D4 makes it look the easiest of all.

Now I think Jamie and his mates are much more sensible than Roothy and his crew but honestly how many owners are prepared to do what either do in their standard daily drive 4wd.

Roothys old 60 is so modified it is hardly a Land Cruiser and definitely not a daily driver, I must say one of the only things I respect about Roothy is that he drives that POS all over the country as it must be horrendous to do anything more than 20 kmh in.

I think I would be great to see someone really thrash one and kitted with a snorkel and the right kit these things can take a beating.

As I said I think the D4 will surprise many of the 4WDA Neanderthals, but really do we honestly care what they think anyone ?

Not sure why we have all started turning on each other in this thread but lets stop making assumptions about how the D4 will be treat and see how things pan out.

Regards,

George

Got to say I'm pretty pumped to see a D4 centre stage in the spotlight, and am looking forward to the knock-on effect in accessories

Originally Posted by DiscoWeb

Bloody hell, this thread had taken a strange and ugly turn !!!

Whilst I buy the odd the 4WDA mag, I quite like watching the videos, the mag itself I find to be generally hopeless and simply a glorified catalogue for anything vaguely related to 4wding and camping.

But as I am not a 20 yr apprentice looking to build my 1990's hilux into a quasi comp truck with three of my mate doing all the spanner work on a budget of $1,000 I am not their target market.

Now Glenn at Roo System owning a D4, awesome.

I for 1 think it will go a bloody long way to dispelling much of the negative perceptions surrounding the capability and reliability of the brand, even if it is to an audience that is most unlikely to ever own one.

I assume most on this section of the forum and more widely on the site have seen the great YouTube channel "Misadventure 4wd".

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmc...XuB0i2R7_oFqlg

Jimmy Salsa (I think that is what Jamie calls himself these days on the forum) and Chris (Mini bloodhound) and others drive their RRS and D4 together with Kev in his awesome V8 D2, as well and Toyota's, Mitsubishi Triton etc up and down some bloody impressive tracks and consistently the D4 makes it look the easiest of all.

Now I think Jamie and his mates are much more sensible than Roothy and his crew but honestly how many owners are prepared to do what either do in their standard daily drive 4wd.

Roothys old 60 is so modified it is hardly a Land Cruiser and definitely not a daily driver, I must say one of the only things I respect about Roothy is that he drives that POS all over the country as it must be horrendous to do anything more than 20 kmh in.

I think I would be great to see someone really thrash one and kitted with a snorkel and the right kit these things can take a beating.

As I said I think the D4 will surprise many of the 4WDA Neanderthals, but really do we honestly care what they think anyone ?

Not sure why we have all started turning on each other in this thread but lets stop making assumptions about how the D4 will be treat and see how things pan out.

Regards,

George

From what's been said on the vids and mags by Roothy, it gets chucked in a shipping container more often than not,,,

However, I still love seeing where they go. Having to do this for a job must truly be epic.