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I have seen the llams but I have gone the rods. I have a set of coopers and steel rims and the extra height isn't a problem. my d4 drives the same on the highway and I don't have to think too hard about heading off road at the new standard height. the height setting using the rods don't seem to be to over the top. I do get offroad as much as possible and I find it very convenient.
I use an IIDTool to change ride height when going off road, so I have the in-cabin "off road" setting still when I need it. It is simple enough to use but surely it is never going to beat LLAMS for ease of use. If you go off road frequently then I believe LLAMS is the way to go.
IIDTool changes the default car height settings so if you add 50mm to standard ride height you are effectively in Off Road height, yet the car doesn't know any better than it is at standard ride height. That ride height stays until you change it again so as long as you can clear ABS fault codes you should be able to get back up to what the car believes is standard height.
So let me understand further what your saying - you're not getting bugged by warning 'bongs' at higher speeds by going +50mm from standard height because the vehicle still thinks its at standard height, is that correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by IndusD4
And if you go to 'Off Road' height from within the cabin using the console rocker switch or changing to 'rock crawl' you then go to 'extended height' without further needing use of the IID tool?
Hi Guys,
Just thought I'd chime in here quickly. This is a post that I made in a similar thread on D3.co.uk a few days ago:
DISCO3.CO.UK - View topic - Fiddling with air suspension Italian styleQuote:
I will add a shameless self plug - but because I also believe it to be relevant info too.
If you use the EASControl (or IIDTool which contains the same EAS functions) to reprogram your suspension heights, your suspension height changes are limited to roughly 40-50mm up and down depending on the original EAS calibration, height sensors, etc. If you use the EASControl in conjunction with rods you can go beyond that range (theoretically to the limits of suspension travel). Using the EASControl allows you to retain the in-cab adjustability that the Llams or Anitas offers - albeit a little slower as suspension height changes take about 30-45 sec (vid - lowering on a RRS Video - GAP Diagnostic ) to do vs. the twist of a knob with Llams or Anitas. But as compensation, the EASControl / rods combo only requires installation of the rods (no clipping any wires or any electric install necessary) and gives you full diagnostic capability on the EAS system (or the full vehicle in the case of the IIDTool) including fault read/clear, live values, control output, etc. And when I looked at this several months ago, the EASControl / rods combo cost a little over half as much as the Llams or Anitas.
I would like to add a couple of items for clarity:
- when you change the suspension heights, you are actually recalibrating the EAS ECU. Once done, there is very little in the way of risk as you simply added or subtracted height from the baseline setting. Height changes happen just as they did prior to recalibration.
- the EASControl and IIDTool both scan the original EAS settings when first used on a vehicle. This is saved as 'restore'.
- in order to keep from having to press + or - repeatedly, both units also allow for 3 settings to be saved: eg street tires, off road tires (road height), off road tires (off road height)
- the EAS ECU has internal limits that will not allow a lift by these means to exceed ~40 to 50mm. This is just the base height setting, so other changes, such as to off road height are on top of this changed setting.
- we have a number of users in the US combining the EASControl with rods (as above). This allows for quite large tires while still retaining the adjustability from the driver's seat as above. It doesn't leave much room for suspension droop when all the way up, tho.
- Graeme, the motor can be running during a recalibration with our units. See vid again.
Our units are not as fast as the llams. Both systems have their advantages.
HTH
Sorry for the error, I've only ever made 1 parameter change to my suspension ecu so obviously have lumped the suspension ecu's actions in with the BCU where I've made several which causes it and most other ecus to restart after each update.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevemfr