Thread: ENGINE SYSTEMS FAULT

Originally Posted by gghaggis

I take it that if there were no codes, you didn't have the Engine Systems Fault light on? So what were you asking the dealer to fix? Was there some other symptom, or are you referring to a general hesitation? Hesitation can be due to a lot of other things, not just the turbo actuator.

Cheers,

Gordon

Gordon if you read my other post http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/...ng-uphill.html it will fill you in.

Cheers

Excuse my ignorance but isn't the simple and by the sounds of it easiest solution to buy your own fault code reader/ reset. ie fault mate , hawkeye, whatever.

Cheers Ean

Originally Posted by willem

I appreciate the frustration, but I have to say that if you expect Toyotas never to have similar problems you're dreaming! I have been around long enough to know that all complex machines have problems. Toyotas are no exceptions! Neither are Land Rovers, Nissans, Rolls Royce, or anything else, in spite of what the various fan boys would have you believe.


I can tell you about a certain Toyota RAV4 that I am involved with right now ... but I won't bore you.


Willem

Dead right, Sit in any caravan park, and you will hear a long list of issues from the owners of virtually every brand on the market. A long day of towing tends to sort a lot of the newer vehicles out. Quite a few 200 series owners have been unable to start their vehicles the day after a heavy towing trip.

It is all part of modern vehicle ownership.

Mine was all fixed Monday by the dealer. They didn't say too much but claimed it was not a software up date but a software fault that was corrected by a reload and they tell me it won't happen again I was just very unlucky.
I'm disappointed it happened but can't complain about the service, they are always professional and they didn't charge me. Forman did the job and manager followed up to make sure I was happy.

Originally Posted by MartyJB

Mine was all fixed Monday by the dealer. They didn't say too much but claimed it was not a software up date but a software fault that was corrected by a reload and they tell me it won't happen again I was just very unlucky.

I think you've been fed a story to make you happy. How can they guarantee that it wont happen again if nothing has changed? Hopefully a later s/w version was installed that prevents this particular occurrance but if not then it can happen again. One thing about computers is that they produce consistant results given the same set of circumstances.

On the 18 th December 2013 my wife an I packed our vehicle with supplies, a freezer and a fridge and a fair bit of other gear to travel from Toowoomba Qld to Tenant Creek NT then to King Ash Bay in the Gulf to fish. As one would expect mother had a load of gear and stuff for our daughter who is expecting our first grandchild in March. Our vehicle a 2011 Disco 4 is well maintained and had 42000 odd k's on it so we where happy to be heading off to see our daughter and to spend Christmas with her and her husband. As we passed a vehicle just out of Dulacia the car suddenly slowed and went into limp home mode and the dreaded Engine Fault light came on. I stopped and checked all over the vehicle - no leaks, plenty of water, no strange sounds or motor noises and all was normal as could be ascertained. As we were just out of mobile phone range I started the vehicle a few times whilst checking and looking and set off again - light still on but the vehicle was running normally. We continued on with the light on but with no apparent fault - fuel consumption normal, temp normal and full power. As soon as we could I contacted Landrover Roadside assistance who advised us that the vehicle would need to be towed to Toowoomba for repair. After a half hour conversation with the idiot and explaining to him that there was nothing wrong but could we get someone in maybe Roma or Longreach or Mt Isa to look at but no he insisted it must not be driven and returned to Toowoomba only by tow truck. We did not agree and contused and disappointed with the response and poor service we continued as it is our only two week break a year. We then continued with the light on the whole time for our trip and I finally got the car serviced yesterday at southern Cross Ford Toowoomba yesterday at 49 845 k's and they could find no fault with it at all - reset the light to turn it off and said it displayed no faults in its memory - so what good or how reliable is that warning system - completely useless and unreliable and I now have no faith in their system. Also should it happen again why or how could you trust it ??? It is extremely poor of Landrover to have such a useless warning system in a vehicle. Does it also mean that is saying the air bags are fine but really they are not ???

It is _extremely_ advisable to fork out the $300 ~ $400 for a diagnostics box so that you can examine (and clear) your own faults when out of town. It's a cheap outlay for peace of mind.

If an engine warning light is triggered, you unfortunately can't expect LRA to take the risk and say drive it, if you don't know any of the codes or faults that triggered it. On the other hand, a good indie or dealer service department would probably have given you better advice. Either way, with a good diagnostics box you can help them and yourself make a better value judgement.

Cheers,

Gordon

Can anyone please advise me of a good quality Diagnostic Tool to use on a Discovery 4 2011 Diesel 3.0 TDV6. To clear codes and also see whats what when a long way from nearest service agent and also to see if they are telling me the truth when near one again.

Andy