I always thought the miss fuelling device was for morons- and I guess it is. Then I discovered that I am in fact one of those morons!! Only got a couple of 100 mls in before the device kicked in.Quote:
Originally Posted by SBD4
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I always thought the miss fuelling device was for morons- and I guess it is. Then I discovered that I am in fact one of those morons!! Only got a couple of 100 mls in before the device kicked in.Quote:
Originally Posted by SBD4
The only PITA is using jerry cans, the nozzle in those can also trigger the mis-fueling device if it goes in too far. Then it's embarrassing trying to find the rest tool while there is a queue behind you at a busy country town servo the day before the Christmas public holidays...
Over here, the diesel fuel nozzles tend to have either yellow or black plastic coverings on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fitzy2011
GM and others install yellow gas caps on their petrol engine vehicles that are E85 rated, that is are deemed ethanol OK.
Green is what they use for Diesel fuel caps and black for normal petrol. As such, the GM fuel cap jpg below is not to be confused with the fuel cap off a John Deere tractor as the shade of green is a bit off.
Maybe the oil companies and the car companies should be talking to each other.
When ULP came in to use in Australia there was talk then of colour coding the fuel cap and the pump. Was to be green for ULP, red for Super and black for diesel. Studies had shown this was sufficient to stop 99% of miss fuels. Nothing though came of it. Perhaps was too simple and low tech to grab attention.
One more
Here in the UK you need to take care and watch which hose you have garbed as it is a popular trick to swap them around so the petrol and diesel are in the wrong place. Miss fuel results if you do not spot it. As each petrol station had their own idea of what colour goes with which fuel it is easier than you may think to be caught. Perhaps this is what happened here.
It's occurred to me that smart arse kids might think it funny to swap nozzles on the bowser when the station is closed so I always check the nozzle belongs to the pump I want to use. Especially if the nozzle has no markings on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 3toes
My wife did the same thing with a D3 about two years ago. Dark, murky day and a certain brand of fuel used dark colours to identify the different fuel types and 'whizz-bang' names that bear no resemblence to the type of fuel. Full tank of unleaded (the D3 was nearly empty).
Got around the corner and the motor stopped.
Towed to our independent LR specialist. Diagnosis codes related to a lack of fuel pressure, probably due to the difference in viscosity between petrol and diesel. Full flush of fuel system (full tank of unleaded wasted...).
Some discussion about long term effects. Main concern was lack of lubrication for the injectors, petrol would quickly remove any diesel residue. Decided to try it and see.
2 years and 50,000 K later there seems to be no long term damage. It appears the much maligned modern technology saves us a big repair bill.
I wouldn't recommend trying to restart a motor if this happens, the initial shutdown provides protection but repeated restarting is going to force petrol further through the fuel system.
Yep - have seen that regularly at a couple of places - one in Kalgoorlie is well known for it (and it's not always kids either - just idiots).Quote:
Originally Posted by SBD4
Caltex is a trap ...............
They advertise "Vortex" diesel and also "Vortex" ULP.
I got caught in Northam a while back in the D2 td5. Saw a sign as I approached the Caltex advertising "Vortex Diesel" at $X.XX per litre.
Pulled up at a bowser marked as "Vortex" and showing the advertised price of $X.XX per litre and commenced to fill up. After about 20 litres, I could distinctly smell petrol and stopped pumping. :unsure:
Just happened that on that particular day, their Vortex Diesel and Vortex ULP were the same price ..................
Drained the tank, filled up with Diesel (and gave the service station owner a little "friendly" advice about their poor advertising / signage practices) and continued driving without any problems.
Generally haven't been back to a Caltex since though - usually try to stick with BP. (The fact that a lot of Caltex places are associated with Coles or Woolies these days also has a lot to do with why I won't buy fuel from them also). ;)
Also don't have any problem filling the D4 with a hi-flow diesel pump. Just need to be careful of the angle / position you hold the nozzle or it tends to spit back at you a bit, especially since I've had the long range tank installed (which fills through the same / original filler point).
Here, the kids roar past the pumps on their bicycles and take the windshield squeegees. Switching nozzles will probably be the new fad for this spring upcoming. I appreciate the heads up.Quote:
Originally Posted by SBD4
Actually, diesel pumps being so rare here, they tend to be located on a separate island away from the petrol pumps. That will change as diesel becomes more popular. Re naming, Mercedes would like us to use BlueTec as the name; myself, I am kind of expecting GasOil or GAZOLE as that should really confuse everyone but our language commissioners.
The jpg is from France; note the petrol nozzles are green and the GasOil, black.
This happened around 12 month back.
So there I am standing in the servo fuel gun in hand hand click goes the 'don't put that in there' thingy. Like the bright intelligent bloke I am, I scratch my head and continue to try to trickle the fuel into the tank. Mind you I did check and I definitely had hold of the diesel pump. One of the servo staff comes over to see what is going on (probably heard my very descriptive comments and saw my arms waiving about). Between us we give up and I drive home with a small amount of fuel in the tank.
If all else fails read the instructions! Ah!!! the mis-fueling device. :o
I scrabble around in the glove box and find the ''yellow doover'' for fixing the problem and sure enough click and all is good or so it seems.
Back to the servo for fuel. This time I check that I have the diesel pump and stick the diesel nozzle into the opening.
Then 'click' and :censored: me if I can't fuel the vehicle.
The staff member comes out again and suggests that its a Land Rover and I should expect problems. While I am listening to his view on every thing european the penny drops.
The diesel nozzle at this bowser has been fitted with a ULP spout! I point this out to the staff member who then goes silent. We both check the other pumps and sure enough its only this particular hand piece that is incorrectly fitted with the ULP spout. I then make comment that the vehicle is doing what it was designed to do and protect both itself and the nut behind the wheel from making a grave mistake.
So whilst I have not stuck ULP in the tank (touch wood) you really do need to look carefully when at the servo as they are not the be all and end all of correctness! ;)