disc 3 .... which engine?

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Originally Posted by Epic pooh

Garry, I have no idea which would be more expensive to service, but I'd wager plugs are cheaper than belts (v8 has a timing chain).

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For sure the Jag V8 has chains where the TDV6 has chains and belts but many other petrol engines also have belts - so comes down to design of the engine not whether it is diesel or petrol.

In our vehicles case does 160,000km of tuneups on the petrol cost more than one belt change on the TDV6 - I have no idea.

I guess my point is that because it is a diesel it does not necessarily follow that it is more expensive to service than a petrol which is the prevailing thought.

cheers

garry

Thanks again Epic, Gary and Andrew,

If money was no object the TDV8 goes without saying.... I have a friend who just bought a brand new TDV8 RRS... it is INSANELY powerful!

I don't do huge Kms so will continue to look primarily for a V8 white, stornaway or Java with beige leather, any of the desirable options will be a bonus.
Because any imperfections or signs of wear will annoy me to the point I'll have to fix them, the condition is important - almost all I've seen have the outside edge of the drivers seat demolished, but at least the ceilings are in tact unlike the D1 + D2's!

Rob

Good luck Rob ! Yes the drivers seats are a bit prone to wear ... I call it character :)

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I guess my point is that because it is a diesel it does not necessarily follow that it is more expensive to service than a petrol which is the prevailing thought.

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Both my other vehicles have timing belts (5 years on one, 10 on the other) and short interval plugs (2 years and 5 years) so yes, I totally agree with that !!

I've just done my first plug change (140,000km, 9 years) - plugs were $15 each or so (from memory) and it was straightforward ... although I hear for some it could turn into a fiasco if the plugs don't come out easily.

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Originally Posted by Rob king

If money was no object the TDV8 goes without saying.... I have a friend who just bought a brand new TDV8 RRS... it is INSANELY powerful!

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Rob,

You cannot get a TDV8 in a D3 or D4. RRS and a Fat RR only.

Garry

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Originally Posted by Rob king

Thanks again Epic, Gary and Andrew,

If money was no object the TDV8 goes without saying.... I have a friend who just bought a brand new TDV8 RRS... it is INSANELY powerful!

I don't do huge Kms so will continue to look primarily for a V8 white, stornaway or Java with beige leather, any of the desirable options will be a bonus.
Because any imperfections or signs of wear will annoy me to the point I'll have to fix them, the condition is important - almost all I've seen have the outside edge of the drivers seat demolished, but at least the ceilings are in tact unlike the D1 + D2's!

Rob

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Yep my seat is losing a bit of colour on the outside edge, I'm sure it is the height of the vehicle which means you slide out as you leave the car. There are some companies which will exactly match the leather colour and supply you a colored leather recondition.

I just went through the same process. You wont find an 08/09 D3 v8 so might as scrap that from your list- if they exist at all they are very rare.

When buying second hand service costs take a different look as with most diesels you find in those years you will immediately be up for a timing belt change, factor in $2k to the purchase price.

I drove both and the petrol has more poke but uses more fuel, for my mix of round town driving and rare long distance which diesels are good for plus i never tow I opted for the petrol. Around $8k cheaper to get into than equivalent diesel, plus no major service needed.

So while a lot of the answers will blankly state the diesel is better, you have to ask yourself is it $8-10k better?? You can get petrols with under 100ks as well, not that many diesels with as low mileage.

Also dont be fooled by kw and torque numbers, i have a torque curve for the coyote engine somewhere, in the range you actually use it 1000 to 3000 rpm it has more than say toyota 200kw vtec engine. VTEC is completely useless as it doesnt kick in until around 3000rpm which you will rarely use in real world driving unless you drive like lewis hamilton. A better test is how it feels in drivers seat so i suggest drivig both then working out if the price difference is worth it to you.

Good luck

Do you have the V6 petrol catsman ?

I know someone who has one of those, was impressed when I drove it, nice torquey motor in normal driving. Three very different motors in the same vehicle !

Update...
I drove everything,... D3's in SE and HSE then RRS all the while increasing my budget! The tdv8 was the pick (didn't try a supercharged 4.2)
All engines were sufficient, even the tdv6 did the job but having only V8 drive cars the last 20 years, I needed a bit more.
In the end considering value for money, power and luxury,..I ended up buying a RRS petrol V8. Expect I'll always yearn for the tdV8, but then this won't be my last car!
Now it's been rescued from the city streets I'm looking forward to using it in the way it was intended
Thanks for all your advice.
Rob.

Hi Rob,
Congratulations on buying the RRS V8.
I have been lurking around here for research as I am considering a D3 or RRS.
Could you please share the details of the RRS you have bought - photos, ks, condition private/ dealer, etc.
Cheers
Gav

Congrats Rob, you won't be disappointed with it.


Had my RRS TDV6 for a couple of years now and I still smile every time I get in it!