Weighed today

I was thinking of getting rear drawers but when I weighed mine it was already 2740 with nothing but a half full main tank. My D4 3.0 SE has Kaymar bar with 2 spares, ECB alloy bull bar, long range tank, dual batteries and Mitch Hitch so I wasn't surprised at the extra weight. I had to remove as many seats as possible to try to stay below GVM during a trip with a roof top tent and 3 people in the car. We also travelled quite light and got close to GVM but a bit over if I filled both tanks with fuel and had just stocked up on food and bottled water. From my calculations and weighing stuff that had to go in the car I could only put about 50l in the aux tank and not carry more than 10l of water to stay within GVM, assuming I didn't put on any weight during the trip.


Bob

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Originally Posted by weeds

You're not alone........a good percentage of late model 4wds in touring mode would be over GVM.....we would be doomed if they started weighing while touring.

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Have I got some happy news for you then!!!

Transport mob has started in the last 18 months towing around a portable unit.

And yes, they pull up 4wds and 4wd / van combos and weigh them..

Seen several asked to park up... And then fines issued and not allowed to proceed until they have a diet...


Also, several insurance companies are now having vehicles out touring impounded and weighed after incidents whilst touring - over GVM and goodbye insurance - Theres been a few now...

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Originally Posted by stray dingo

I put my d4 on the weighbridge today and it came back with 3040kg.
GVM in the book is 3240kg, and base weight (inc 75kg driver) is 2583kg.
I previous had it weighed at 2740kg, after the bull bar went on.

I thought I had accounted for about 320kg of extras, (front bar, fuel tank (full), rear carrier, drawers, battery) but not 530kg....:o

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I reckon your last weighing must be wrong. The 2740 was probably about right and your estimate of 320kg of extras could be correct but as you say you will not have 530kg extra, even if you had an extra 75kg of fuel (100l or so) that wasn't weighed initially.


Bob

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Originally Posted by BobD

I reckon your last weighing must be wrong. The 2740 was probably about right and your estimate of 320kg of extras could be correct but as you say you will not have 530kg extra, even if you had an extra 75kg of fuel (100l or so) that wasn't weighed initially.


Bob

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Yes but nobody tends to overestimate weight, we are all inclined to err on the light side.

Patrols are the worst. The GVM of my GQ is only about 2700 and I think it weighs that much empty with the 6.5 Chev diesel, 33 inch tyres, ARB Bullbar, over 200l of fuel, extra battery and the extra stuff I carry, even when not on a trip. The GU is not much better. The LR has heaps of carrying capacity in comparison at its standard weight.


Bob

Hi Folks,
Just for reference, here are some weights of wheel/tyre combinations:

Standard 18"x8" LR alloy wheels with Goodyear Wranglers in 255/60R18: 28kg

Standard 17"x7" LR alloy wheels with BFG KM2 LT245/70R17: 36kg

Steel 17"x7" Dynamic wheels with BFG KM2 LT245/70R17: 42kg

Moral: 5 steel wheels and LT tyres will add 70kg load. LT tyres will also add significant weight. Something to consider!

Wow!...

Think I better do this properly... out of interest stuck my head into the local tip and got a verbal reading as is..

2012 SDV6 ARB bar (No winch), brads sliders, Kaymar RWC - 1 wheel, Full Long Range Tank, Half full main tank, Small tool kit in the back and the 2nd Battery I just bought......Only my lard arse in the car.. 3040Kg! :eek::eek:

I knew it would be heavy.... and I'm not 100% sure the car behind wasn't partly on the bridge...but that's what she said :(

I think I'll do it again properly doing axle weights the whole lot at a different weigh bridge..maybe throw in my fridge and a few other things to get it closer to real touring mode and see where I stand....

I always knew I had to loose some weight..... but maybe the big white hippopotamus does too :p

Tombie - with all your underbody armour - any idea what yours weighs?

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Originally Posted by Bytemrk

Tombie - with all your underbody armour - any idea what yours weighs?

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I shall catch up with the weigh bridge boys this weekend!

This is one reason why I used an alloy bull bar and Gordon's alloy sliders and protection plates are a good idea. Any loaded and modified 4WD is likely to be over GVM without a GVM upgrade so the weight of the upgrades is critical. I don't know of any way of getting a GVM upgrade for our Land Rovers, though.


I remember when I brought this up on the forum a couple of years ago, just after I weighed my car, lots of people said we should all be using trailers while touring. I do that now, so at least I can take the heavy stuff out of the car and put it in the camper trailer, although it is also easy to get that over weight without being careful with what you really need to bring.


Bob

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Originally Posted by BobD

I reckon your last weighing must be wrong. The 2740 was probably about right and your estimate of 320kg of extras could be correct but as you say you will not have 530kg extra, even if you had an extra 75kg of fuel (100l or so) that wasn't weighed initially.
Bob

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That was my first thought (hope) too :-) It was at the local scrap metal station who I've always used...

[/QUOTE]Yes but nobody tends to overestimate weight, we are all inclined to err on the light side.[QUOTE]
I was thinking I had overestimated. In hindsight tho, I've now got it up to 490kg. Anyone please correct my thinking:

1st weigh included:
Front ARB bar and driving lights, 60kg
Traxide kit: 25kg
Snorkel: 10kg
roof bars: 10kg
AT tyres: 5kg extra each (didn't include 40 pounds of air though - maybe thats my problem :):))
full fuel tank from petrol station 200m away 80 litres: 75kg
= 205kg

2nd weigh included
aux tank: 30kg (as advised by opp lock)
rear carrier (Outback single): 25kg (as advised by opp lock)
drawers: 58kg (website)
fridge slide: 35kg (shipping weight on packaging)
cargo barrier: 10kg
air compressor: 7kg
tool box: 20kg ish
both tanks full 170 litres: 155kg
= 340kg
= 470kg total

and a bunch on lightweight stuff - radio, seat covers, melway, etc: lets say 20kg for sake of argument...

= 490kg
only 40kg short......