Thread: Weighed today

Got interested in the Topic so went over the local weigh bridge today. Have a MY13 D4 HSE with dual battery. All else is standard, 3/4 tank of diesel + me @100kg. Weighed in at 2760Kg. Forgot there is also a spare toilet roll in the back for emergencies!!

Originally Posted by stray dingo

Unlike toyotas and Nissans etc there is no off the shelf kit for a gvm upgrade. You have to go to a engineer and them work it out I thinks.
Most of the other gvm upgrades include a suspension upgrade for which there are already products. LRs don't have any other suspension options other than OEM do they?

Exactly why I am asking these questions.

Those of us who love our EAS D3/D4 and plan to keep them a long time will be subject to these problems when touring for the life of the vehicle.

If we can fit EAS to a Defender with Firestone bags, then perhaps as a group we should be looking at whats possible. I'm guessing most of us would be happy if the GVM could get up near 4Tonne.

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Exactly why I am asking these questions.



Those of us who love our EAS D3/D4 and plan to keep them a long time will be subject to these problems when touring for the life of the vehicle.



If we can fit EAS to a Defender with Firestone bags, then perhaps as a group we should be looking at whats possible. I'm guessing most of us would be happy if the GVM could get up near 4Tonne.

I'm not sure you would get 700-800kg increase.........

the ARB GVM upgrade for a 200 series is something like 350kg, which equates to the common accessories that are fitted (long range fuel tank, front and rear bars, roof rack ect. Giving the original spare capacity back for people and luggage etc. most 200's even with GVM upgrade still go over in touring mode, well the guy at work is definitely in this situation.

The rule is simple - touring = trailer.
There are some brilliant lightweight - very tough trailer options out there now.

For ball weights and axle weights keep in mind that the ball weight is at the end of a lever and will place more weight on the rear axle than the ball weight itselfcthe weight is lifted off the front axle. The same applies to any weight behind the rear axle. Opposite for in front of front axle and snything between axles is split in some ratio equivalent to it cog distance from each axle.

Originally Posted by weeds

I'm not sure you would get 700-800kg increase.........

the ARB GVM upgrade for a 200 series is something like 350kg, which equates to the common accessories that are fitted (long range fuel tank, front and rear bars, roof rack ect. Giving the original spare capacity back for people and luggage etc. most 200's even with GVM upgrade still go over in touring mode, well the guy at work is definitely in this situation.

Not a hope in hell. There is no way you will get any engineer to sign off on a change in load rating. Too many unknowns,( and LR are really going to assist aren't they ! ) and you have a second more obvious obstacle. The rear axle load rating is 1855kg. I'm at 1650kg odd now with an aux tank, wheel carrier, fridge and drawers ( not including any towball load ) . You would also be asking an engineer to sign off on exceeding the manufacturers rated axle loading !

A one off GVM upgrade is expensive, as the engineer will have to test the modified vehicle, including brake and swerve testing. I think there is only one facility in Victoria registered to do such work.

a Melbourne GVM upgrader responded to an enquirey with:

"Unfortunately we do not have an upgrade to suit your vehicle and as far as I am aware no one has engineered one in Australia as yet. It is not impossible to engineer a kit for your vehicle however the average cost to engineer one single vehicle starts at around $10,000 so generally we will put a vehicle through testing once we have at least ten vehicles confirmed to make it affordable for the customers."

any takers??

I don't believe the NSW RTA accepts engineering certificates from out of State suppliers unfortunately. So that would reduce the potential market for getting ten D4 owners to sign up some what.