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    I downloaded some parts of the current RRS wiring schematics (primarily the suspension) but not the stop/start system. They all show only the primary battery so the idea that the 2nd battery is solely for stop/start could well be the case. A dedicated stop/start battery would be beneficial to prevent the primary battery from being discharged to the detriment of other systems such as the ecm and suspension. The wiring schematic for the stop-start system would confirm the 2nd battery's stop/start function.
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    Another possible option might be to disable the second brake peddle switch, the one used to activate the Stop/Start operation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivesafe View Post
    Yes, many of the new VWs ( Audi ) come with to owner selectable switches.

    One is like the LR set up, where you can cancel the S/S operation for a given trip.

    The other switch turns it of permanently.

    Why can’t all the manufacturers do this?
    Thats a great idea i wasn't aware of that but a good idea!! The LR one along with many others is annoying how you have to turn it off each time you start the car as opposed to being to disabled it once for ever. I mean the fuel you would save is pretty negligible compared to how annoying it is!!

    I had a new 6L V8 Holden Caprice back in 2011 and when waiting in traffic its meter was showing 1.9L to 2.1L an hour idling so really a smaller engine sitting at traffic would be using even less. And if the car turns off for a minute or so your hardly saving anything. That would be my thought.

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    Hi Nat, and the fuel saving is pathetic, according VW ( I think ) the average saving was just 0.2% over the life span of the vehicle.

    My biggest worry is that Land Rover does not have a good reputation when it comes to anything electrical.

    Add Stop/Start to the mix, and I think they are going to become both more unreliable and potentially more dangerous to drive.

    If removing the Neg of the Stop/Start Battery takes the Stop/Start out of the equation, then that has got to be a good thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drivesafe View Post
    Hi Nat, and the fuel saving is pathetic, according VW ( I think ) the average saving was just 0.2% over the life span of the vehicle.

    My biggest worry is that Land Rover does not have a good reputation when it comes to anything electrical.

    Add Stop/Start to the mix, and I think they are going to become both more unreliable and potentially more dangerous to drive.

    If removing the Neg of the Stop/Start Battery takes the Stop/Start out of the equation, then that has got to be a good thing.
    Yeah i think its just pretty stupid and in the city i mean the fuel savings appear good but when you think it might be turned off for a total of 15 minutes over an hour city traffic or something its going to save you about 300ml of fuel and thats not worth it, as you said especially with all the electrical crap and issues that could happen.

    I've had an issues with a vehicle i test drove and no salesman came with us and it stopped and then i must of done something and it wouldn't restart at the lights so i had to put in park then start again and take off, in the end i went oh f*#k it and turned it off for the rest of the drive.

    I thought that article you shared about removing the battery terminal great idea really smart and stops having to keep disabling it every time you start the car!!

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    We had this on a Volvo we hired in the UK a couple of months back, I hated it. I also wonder whether the fuel savings will outweigh the extra wear and tear on starter motor, ring gear and battery??
    Cheers Mossy

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    Is the feature meant to save fuel or to reduce emissions whilst stopped in traffic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graeme View Post
    Is the feature meant to save fuel or to reduce emissions whilst stopped in traffic?
    Mainly for emissions but the manuals say fuel.

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