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    Air Conditioning not working, help required..........

    Hi There,
    OK, situation warm............... I press the auto air con button, the fan(s) activate, warm / hot air comes out of all the vents, temp setting on minimum, both of them.

    Couldn't hear the compressor kick in or the engine load up, check fuse 51, all good. Think something along the lines of not enough gas possibly to kick the air con system in.

    Call in air con specialist.............not to familiar with the LR system, checked the status of the gas 90 psi should be enough to make the system work. We have now both gone away to do some research, if I hook my Faultmate up will this tell me the problem? For once I have a problem that hasn't resulted in a plethora of fault lights. Thank goodness.

    So anyone any ideas, what is my next step forward, some little relay tucked away somewhere that only a small child can reach maybe?

    Thanks for any assistance rendered as usual.

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    Redings from Faultmate see if this helps

    Hi there,

    I have taken some readings from my Faultmate, does this help anyone diagnose the fault, I have a feeling it isn't a fuse.....

    The main fault data didn't attach I'll try a different approach tomorrow. Mentions about a stepper motor............any clues?
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    Cant help with aircon issues.Does your faultmate work on the MY14 D4???? Im looking for a replacement for my Nannocom,it paid for itself over and over with the D2 and TD5 Defender.Then again I have 5 years until it isnt LRAs problem.Still,I will be looking for a diagnostics setup before I go traveling in the next year or 2
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    Hi Andy,
    If you check the Blackbox web page (Cyprus) that will tell you what you need to buy, I have checked and the web page shows D4 software. I haven't got my hands on a D4 as yet.

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    I've had stepper motor faults from a stuck blend door.

    I have no idea what is causing your issue but - from memory there are at least three fusible links involved in the operation of the ac (2 under bonnet and one under dash maybe) and a whole pile of other over complicated stuff too.

    Do your blend doors operate (can you send air up down etc) ? Does hitting recirc do anything ? When did it work last ?

    I've got the hvac manual sections if you want me to she them to you ?

    Out of interest does your car fart when you press recirc ? If it does normally, is it still doing it now ?

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    Is one of the compressor pipes cool and the other hot or are they both warm? Both warm indicates that the compressor is not pumping.

    Is the compressor turning? If the V6's compressor is similar to the 2.7's where the compressor always turns but the pulley drive is sacrificial if the compressor siezes, is the pulley spinning on the shaft? If the compressor has a clutch, is the clutch engaging?
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    Another attempt at attaching info

    Hi There,
    I have a lot of things to check from the last two posts, however I will try and attach the Faultmate codes, the system has eight untested fault codes. These are hard faults and won't reset.

    Both the pipes are warm on the compressor, with the air con on, the air con guy confirmed the compressor was doing nothing, as for parts turning I haven't had a look, I do know that the engine "load note" didn't change from when the air con was off to on. The fart noise, I know the one you are talking about, I'll check tonight.

    If you get to see this the bottom fault is the one of most interest. I think they have attached this time round.

    Again thanks for assistance rendered.
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    Not tested codes are only a list of possible faults that haven't occurred, so ignore the lot.

    I can't decipher the display even by saving the picture, enlarging it and attempting to adjust contrast etc.

    I would inspect the compressor shaft with the a/c switched on and engine running to see if its turning. Is there a clutch as part of the pulley, with 1 or 2 wires going into the front of the compressor?
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    I think if the compressor is not running/working you can ignore my remarks. Have you checked all the related fusible links under bonnet and under dash ?

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    See if that is any better Graeme

    Hi Graeme,
    I've now zoomed in and made the file a .pdf format, that should allow you to play around a bit. The tested scan told me no faults, so I went to the untested scan, thanks for clearing that up. Also thanks for having a look. Got me a bit stumped this one. The temp control says 20 degrees C, I'm sure the temp ws set to minimum, something else to check now I have opened up te file again.

    Fuesable links, I've checked the one in the passengers bay (51), there are more in the engine bay............. I'll have another look tonight I didn't think there were any more.
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