Thread: Seriously Bogged

On 18" 60 profile tyres I've been down to 9psi for serious extraction. You should rarely have to jack the car to get out of a sand bog (read my booklet), but if you do the car should be AT LEAST at off-road height, if not extended first. A 500mm air jack should manage from there.

Cheers,

Gordon

I was using Max Tracks, angle was sharp and wheels just melted the knobs on the tracks!

Originally Posted by LandyAndy

Gordon mentions in his course that maxtracks work exceptionally well with the Terrain Response electronics.
Now you have it off your chest,can you disclose the embarrasing incident??? It is relevent to us newby D3/D4 owners,always good to know of pitfalls in advance.
Any pics????
Thanks
Andrew

I became bogged when I tried to reverse into a potential turn-around point. I had forgotten to disable the trailer override brakes... so car was trying to push against a brick wall! Dumb and dumber!
Thanks for the input all. Comments about the DSC noted, I had read something about this before but didn't retain it in my memory bank. I will fit rock sliders that can facilitate the use of a high lift jack as one post suggested, and probably a winch.
While I was disappointed in this experience, I can say that after owning the Disco for 5 months I could NEVER go back to a lesser vehicle and am happy to spend what is needed to make it a viable replacement for the old Troopy.

285 tyres on 18 inch rims help a bit but the standard tyres are not much worse as long as you lower pressures to less than 18. Since I got the 285 tyres I haven't really looked like getting bogged after lots of WA sand driving, except when I stupidly don't let down the tyres because I'm lazy.


The main limitation I have compared with a lifted cruiser is the ramp over angle. My son's D1 will do it, my son in law's Patrol and 80 series will do it but the D4 will hang up on the middle, even in Llams raised height. Other than that the car is easily as capable as a Patrol or Cruiser in sand and wombat holes. Rocks are also good but a bit too easy to damage stuff that you wouldn't worry about in a Troopy or GQ Patrol!


Boggs, get Gordon's booklet if you haven't already got it and try to do a GOE course. You don't need mods to make it capable you probably just need to learn how to drive it, since a lot of stuff is so different from the old ways we are used to. Don't forget Rock Crawl when you get stuck. If there is any traction, even a single tree root or a bit of firmer sand, it will find it and get the car moving. It is amazing how it will walk out of stuff in Rock Crawl that you thought was terminal when in Sand Mode.


See you on the tracks sometime demonstrating how capable the D4 is to all the traditional 4WD owners out there!

Originally Posted by Boggs

I was using Max Tracks, angle was sharp and wheels just melted the knobs on the tracks!

Sounds like too much throttle - Crawl onto Maxtrax.

Originally Posted by LandyAndy

Was warned about the DSC at Gordons course.And the fact that you need to make sure its disabled EVERY time you move on sand as it will re-set.
Andrew

That is what always catches me out,if the engine is turned off and then on again DSC will come back on,also if you change TR modes,you will find DSC turns on in grass,gravel and snow mode,even though it may have been turned off in another mode.The DSC off light will go out.

DSC will also sometimes come on in some modes,even if it is turned off,although i have never seen this happen in sand mode.
The orange DSC light will flash on when it is on,even though the DSC off orange light is on at the same time.

Hope the above is not to confusing….

And as Tombie has said,always crawl onto maxtrax,as it says in their instructions(that no one ever reads)

In low range for proper control and low wheel speed!


By the way Boggs, were you in low range? The D4 needs to be in low range to activate all of its smart off road stuff properly, especially the cross linking of the suspension and other terrain settings.

Originally Posted by BobD

In low range for proper control and low wheel speed!


By the way Boggs, were you in low range? The D4 needs to be in low range to activate all of its smart off road stuff properly, especially the cross linking of the suspension and other terrain settings.

Initially I had her in "cactus" mode.. aka sand... then went to low range when bogged. yes, it's all a bit confusing... definitely going to by Gordon's booklet and get to one of his courses.. just need to find a date that doesn't conflict with my FIFO roster..