Bytemark staked a Hankook at Melrose, but went on to complete the rest of the trip without incident...
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Bytemark staked a Hankook at Melrose, but went on to complete the rest of the trip without incident...
Yep,
Put a rock through a sidewall scambling down from here on a trip out of Melrose. https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.n...20379da91e4e5e
5 minutes after the other D4 put a rock through the side of a Cooper.
In my case, honestly I think it was driver error / bit of bad luck rather than the tyre. As Tombie said, we went on to the rest of the trip without issue. And we took on plenty of nasty rocky terrain.
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/sa-reports...ml#post2348828
I'd certainly buy the Hankooks again. At around $315 a tyre its a big difference from the so called premium brands.
If the RRV that I end-up with has 19" rims then the Hankooks are my current choice, but an 18" conversion will occur if the tyres or rims don't survive well enough. The Hankooks are cheap enough to destroy an occasional one but I don't want the inconvenience of repeated failures.
I'd agree Graeme, by choice I'd have 18' rims... but for the moment the Hankooks are doing the job for me.
I was almost prepared to replace a 19 inch Hankook every time I went out,Quote:
Originally Posted by Graeme
http://wheelan.smugmug.com/Quick-sha...SCF2982-XL.jpg
then decided to get the 18s. You can see what I put on here http://www.aulro.com/afvb/d3-d4-rrs/...ntry-trip.html
I recall seeing your post of the special attention needed for the tyre! I note that the split is below the thicker upper sidewall section so the upper section may be more resilient. I also note the mark on the rim suggesting that the sidewall was pinched rather than a sharp rock or stick having poked a hole.
Wheelan what sort of pressures where you running? I suspect that will make a big difference too.
Still do not understand why Landrover is putting 19inch rims on a 4wd. D4s are nice cars. D3s with 18 are a lot better, get down to 17 inch or less and the options and ability goes up as the prices come down.
Big brakes excuse is no longer funny IMO. PIMP up street cars with big rims and skinny rubber. When my D3 dies (hopefully in several hundred thousand KM) I will not be joining the D4 crew.
People said the same when the D2's had 16's and all the toyonissan boys had 15's ten years ago.
I agree 18 would be better, but the 19's on mine are like that to fit the Brembo brakes which stop the car brilliantly.
The 19's will still get you plenty of interesting places.. I did most of the SA trip linked above at about 10% down when off road, including some very sharp rocky tracks in the Flinders. They also handled some pretty rocky stuff in the Lithgow last year without issue as well as plenty of exploring Vic ..... You just need to adjust the way you think.... unless I was desperate or on very soft sand, I wouldn't drop my pressures by more than 20%.
Tombie and I took a close look at his 265 18's next to my 255 19's and in the real world the actual height of tyre side wall is very similar... the 18 was maybe 1 cm taller.
Stupid thing is there is a better range of off road tyres available for 20's than 19's :angel:
Over the years I have seen plenty of staked tyres; fortunately never one of mine.
This has happened on vehicles running 15, 16, 17, 18 and 19" rims.
Besides those occasions where it was just bad luck - ie a Gibber was flicked up by a front tyre only to stake the rear tyre... Most were through one of the following:
- Inattention to prevailing track surface
- Incorrect tyre pressure
- Unsuitable speed
Mark and I also had long discussions around the potential in a D3/D4/RRS with its effortless ride and comfort to easily be going significantly quicker than suited to the real track conditions.
Both of us agreed that on surfaces where the appropriate speed was around 80-90km/h we were quite comfortable pushing well above this - triple digits and climbing!
Whilst great fun, this places increased risk around staking a tyre.
I was impressed by the Hankook tyres, showing no damage from chipping etc after some testing tracks. My 18" D697s also faired very well.
Would I see the 19's as an impediment to serious use? Not if I was using the vehicle appropriately offroad, observing track conditions and driving accordingly.
Where I see the Goodyear having an advantage over the Hankook.
- Mud - more open tread design would (and does) clear better
- Loose surfaces - the squared off shoulder/tread gives better lateral stability on these surface types.
Cheers
Mike