Thread: looking to buy high KM D4

Originally Posted by Graeme

For a 2008-2011 D3/D4/RRS/RRV and many other non-LR vehicles with the 6-speed, budget on the rebuild regardless because of a bush material stuff-up.

Graeme
I can't remember from the last discussion on 6 speed autos, does the same problem apply to the D3 & L322 with 6 speed auto?

"I have come from Subaru's for the past 10 years so I am a bit out of my comfort zone...."


The Subaru brand in general is a benchmark for safety, reliability, and quality control, hence your current comfort zone.

Is your current Subaru a diesel? What do you expect to gain from the changeover, ie what will the D4 allow you to do that the Subaru will not?

You will need to keep many thousands tucked away for a rainy D3/4 day. Don't want to put a "dampener" on your dreams, but when it pours it pours!

Having said all that, the d3/4 is very comfortable "zone" in which to travel, on or off road.

-Wasa

Originally Posted by DiscoDB

Probably true if you buy a high mileage BMW that has followed their minimalistic servicing schedules - such as the sealed for life auto!

One could be forgiven for thinking you were talking about a Discovery with that statement... really there is no difference between the marques in that regard.

IMO, if buying a Land Rover, you need to consider if your budget can support a total overhaul of a major component, such as the engine.

Buying a high km car because it's cheap (not that 160 is high at all), is quite often more expensive in the long run.

But I have no idea about this stuff

Originally Posted by rar110

Graeme
I can't remember from the last discussion on 6 speed autos, does the same problem apply to the D3 & L322 with 6 speed auto?

Any combination of the following DTC's may be stored in the transmission control module (TCM). P0729 to P0735, P0783, P2702 to P2704.*

Cause: Internal lead free stator bush wear causing loss of pressure on E clutch. Suggested Customer Concern Code - P66.*

Discovery 3 / LR3 (LA) - ZF 6HP Automatic Transmission*
Model Year: 2008-2009*
Chassis Range: 8A475162-9A513325*

Discovery 4 / LR4 (LA) - ZF 6HP Automatic Transmission*
Model Year: 2010-2011*
Chassis Range: AA513326-BA588606*

Range Rover (LM) - ZF 6HP Automatic Transmission*
Model Year: 2008-2011*
Chassis Range: 8A282106-BA356686*

Range Rover Sport (LS) - ZF 6HP Automatic Transmission*
Model Year: 2008-2011*
Chassis Range: 8A165260-BA706935*

Note that the MY11 TDV8 L322 was fitted with the 8-speed.

P2704 on mine.

Luck is with me on this one, my VIN is 8A27**** dde0a

My 2010 D4 is still OK at 190,000km. I have done 2 oil changes and nearly up to the third. Just did a 2 week, 11,000km trip from Perth to Brisbane to pick up a used 2013 Kimberley Karavan and towed it back via Birdsville, Coober Pedy, Uluru and Great Central Road to Perth with no issues.


Graeme, how much warning do you get from first symptoms to failure? What was the first thing you noticed that made you think there was a problem?

I noticed strange dropping out of 6th then going back into 6th ascending low hills at 90+ kph only a week or so after the oil change. I wondered if I'd left the oil low but not so. The problem increased over the next few weeks to not staying in 6th under much load at all, often going into limp mode after free-wheeling for a few seconds when 5th wouldn't engage properly.

The oil wasn't burnt or dirty from slipping clutches at its first change at 150K but may have been heavily contaminated with fine bush material that may have accelerated the bush wear. I wonder if the oil had been changed a couple of times during that time to remove metal-contaminated oil that the bushes may have survived much longer. I can only think that the old oil was thicker than the new oil (Lifequard 6) to the extent that the shaft seals could cope with the bearing wear. However the ZF techo said that it probably had nothing to do with the oil change, only that its life was up.

Originally Posted by rar110

Luck is with me on this one, my VIN is 8A27**** dde0a

My brother's MY08 TDV8 RRS is early enough too!