Price vs Age - D3 or D4?

Hey guys,

I want the diesel for the economy, as much as a v8 would be nice i'd just prefer diesel.

I do like the Freelander 2's but want low range and off road capability the F2 cant provide.

I need to sit down and look at finance options and work out where my budget ceiling is. At the moment theres only 1 D4 3.0L on car sales under 50k.

I have discounted leasing but need to find out what the monthly cost is to lease a D4.

I havent more research to do but valuing everyones input, thanks.

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Originally Posted by First LR

Each to their own, but I prefer comfort wherever I go ;)

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Yeah, I'm becoming more like that these days too! ;)

Ace,

Let me know how you go and what you end up getting. I figure we're both looking at similar vehicles from the Sydney area. I still have a bit of time on my side so will sit it out until I know and find what I want :)

Cheers

Dan

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Originally Posted by Disco-tastic

Ace,

Let me know how you go and what you end up getting. I figure we're both looking at similar vehicles from the Sydney area. I still have a bit of time on my side so will sit it out until I know and find what I want :)

Cheers

Dan

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Will do, im getting a quote and finance option done up on a new SDV6 D4 SE under the 2.9% finance deal done up to see what that comes back at.

Looking at the prices of 3yr old models doing a finance on one at the low interest with a 50% balloon at the end of it they are worth well over 50% of the original purchase value. My main worry was that i'd be stuck with something worth less and be out of pocket a heap. But if its worth more and I can trade in again after 3yrs and get ahead a bit more then it might be an option. All comes down to the fortnightly cost and if it fits in the budget. The peace of mind of a new vehicle with warranty would be the way to go, and the assurance that there wouldnt be any costly repair bills.

I'll keep you posted.

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Originally Posted by Ace

Hey guys,

I want the diesel for the economy, as much as a v8 would be nice i'd just prefer diesel.

I do like the Freelander 2's but want low range and off road capability the F2 cant provide.

I need to sit down and look at finance options and work out where my budget ceiling is. At the moment theres only 1 D4 3.0L on car sales under 50k.

I have discounted leasing but need to find out what the monthly cost is to lease a D4.

I havent more research to do but valuing everyones input, thanks.

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Andrew

Got the PM, thanks Andy.

I priced one up and with the 2.9% finance and a 50% balloon payment it worked out at around $350 a week, about $100-150 more than i want to commit to.

As a result i've been doing some research and based on a budget of $200/week or $400/fn I can work with a loan amount of around 40k if i wanted to go that high.

I've done some research and there are a few good D3's out there with between 100000-150000km on the clock, for between 30-40k. If i want to go to around the 200000km mark then there are some good ones for around 25-30k.

What is everyones opinions on km's and such. Is 200000km really all that high on a well serviced D3?

Probably the only thing that worries me is the auto box which is an issue on petrol or diesel and then the fuel system, if that packs it in i've read repair bills can be as high as 15k.

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Originally Posted by Ace

Probably the only thing that worries me is the auto box which is an issue on petrol or diesel and then the fuel system, if that packs it in i've read repair bills can be as high as 15k.

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Yeah I've been eyeing of cars around the 100-160k km mark too with the sane concerns

Which fuel system cost that much to fix. Diesel or petrol?

Cheers

Dan

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Originally Posted by Disco-tastic

Yeah I've been eyeing of cars around the 100-160k km mark too with the sane concerns

Which fuel system cost that much to fix. Diesel or petrol?

Cheers

Dan

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The diesel system mate. Its not confined to Land Rover only, pretty much any Common Rail Diesel engine these days has the potential to cost you an arm and a leg. From memory TD5 injectors can reach as high as $1500 each.

The common rail systems are very reliable and can easily surpass 300000km but you have to be very particular about your fuel quality and fuel filters. Water in a CRD fuel system will all but destroy it and leave a hole in your hip pocket. It will be a problem on all modern diesels fitted with this system.

Having said that if you keep your fuel filter changes up to date and only buy from reputable service stations then you'll be fine.

Im still going to go for a diesel and just be careful with the fuel i buy and keep my filter swaps as regular as I can.

In terms of the gearbox issue i think this can be safely prevented with your driving style and investing in the bottom plate that can be removed without jacking up the engine to tilt it to create space to remove it so that regular servicing can be carried out. They seem to be more designed as a sealed for life unit like the DSG boxes in the VW's. From all accounts once you get the first service done and change the bottom plate and then do regular services on it then theres no reason it shouldnt go on for quite a few km's.

Thanks Ace

Yeah ive heard about Td5 injectors. If I did get a diesel I would look at adding an additional filter to try and help keep muck out of the expensive parts of the system. From memory there are some threads either on here or disco3.co.uk where some people have done it.

My concern with the gearbox is that if I get one over 100k km they may not have been serviced and then the damage may have already been done. I know this can be checked via service log books but im still vary wary of it.

At this stage I would buy a cheaper petrol except that premium is so expensive! Their relative simplicity compared to the diesel outweighs the torque deficit for me and my driving. Its pretty much what nomad, ozscott and terry have been saying all along :p

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That said if I had the money I'd go for a low mileage later model diesel as I'd probably keep it for longer and the fuel price difference would be a much bigger factor.

Cheers.

Dan

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Originally Posted by Disco-tastic

Thanks Ace

Yeah ive heard about Td5 injectors. If I did get a diesel I would look at adding an additional filter to try and help keep muck out of the expensive parts of the system. From memory there are some threads either on here or disco3.co.uk where some people have done it.

My concern with the gearbox is that if I get one over 100k km they may not have been serviced and then the damage may have already been done. I know this can be checked via service log books but im still vary wary of it.

At this stage I would buy a cheaper petrol except that premium is so expensive! Their relative simplicity compared to the diesel outweighs the torque deficit for me and my driving. Its pretty much what nomad, ozscott and terry have been saying all along :p

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That said if I had the money I'd go for a low mileage later model diesel as I'd probably keep it for longer and the fuel price difference would be a much bigger factor.

Cheers.

Dan

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I think if you get one with over 100000km and get the service done as a matter of priority and then keep the servicing up to it then you'll be fine. Its not a cheap exercise so i think its an every 100000km kind of thing anyway.

In terms of fuel if you can keep the original filters changed regularly and then maybe add a water trap or something like that that would be a better combination.

Im pretty set on getting a D3 with the lowest km's i can find, just need to sell my Xr8 and my D1 first.