Disco 3 Motor Options

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Originally Posted by DazzaTD5

While I'm not really questioning the price, I couldnt do a change over for that. If I went on the basics of ripping out the broken engine, putting in the used engine and back together, through me it would be $2700.00, so even if I cut it back to $2500, thats what $2500 - 3000 for an engine? Wish I could buy used engines for that.

It will no doubt get to the point where offering a budget change over will happen as the vehicle wont be worth much more than that. But at the moment Ive yet to see anyone offering used engines cheap enough.

Regards
Daz

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Hi Daz, if you read back the op's original posts, which might have been in another thread he started on this topic when his Disco first broke down, from memory he said he was getting charged $10k for the change over plus the engine cost.

After reading what I wrote in later emails I can see why you are getting confused over what I meant, when I said the change over at $10k was to much and when I referred to others having had it done for $5-6k.

You took it that I had included the engine for $5-6k which I had not. I was merely talking about the labour and extras etc like belts, hoses etc. The price's you are quoting if you did the change over are very reasonable to say the least and backs up what I was saying that the quote he got for $10k for the labour (change over) was to much.

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Originally Posted by TerryO

Hi Daz, if you read back the op's original posts, which might have been in another thread he started on this topic when his Disco first broke down, from memory he said he was getting charged $10k for the change over plus the engine cost.

After reading what I wrote in later emails I can see why you are getting confused over what I meant, when I said the change over at $10k was to much and when I referred to others having had it done for $5-6k.

You took it that I had included the engine for $5-6k which I had not. I was merely talking about the labour and extras etc like belts, hoses etc. The price's you are quoting if you did the change over are very reasonable to say the least and backs up what I was saying that the quote he got for $10k for the labour (change over) was to much.

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Ah ok fair call, now the prices look about right. honestly I do think there are engine change jobs I dont get simply because what I am quoting and someone else is quoting, is two different things.

Ive not done a "on the cheap" change yet, for me, when its a $40k to say $60K of Range Rover, everything gets checked and replaced as required.
For some oddness i have, I've started taking pictures of these jobs.
https://www.facebook.com/aztech4x4/p...type=3&theater

Eventually the D3 will become an option for a quick cheap change. I wouldnt mind doing a few straight cheap change overs as there is a huge amount of time involved in stripping ancillary parts, cleaning and fitting. But hrmm then again....

Regards
Daz

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Originally Posted by DonDownunder

The root mode of failure was the collapse of the co-drive chain between the two cams on the passenger side head

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I have some pics of the Chain failure. It is interesting to note that the failure was on a single hardened link pin and it looks like at a joint link or a timing point as the link is an anodized blue color.
From my observations I am of the belief that the pin ultimately failed after a progressive stress fracture which may of existed for some time and possible relates to the manufacture process (heat treatment etc) Attachment 104439

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Yes Don, those colored links are timing links to time the cams. I guess there will always be just random failures- you see it on all makes- maybe LR owners are more social and sharing!!. We are just about to lift the body on our second D3 to do an engine swap. My original moter - with only 75K on it - had the HT bolt which holds the timing belt tensioner fail in Oct after I replaced the belt and tensioner in May!! I put a new fully dressed engine in mine -EU4 spec- with new injectors, turbo and EGR's. Just finished rebuilding my original motor with some heads I got from Dazza afterwards and about to put it in another D3 I bought with a stuffed motor- as yet undiagnosed but maybe seized or hydraulic lock. Reports were it was due to bad fuel!!! Anyway, can confirm Dazzas thoughts- lifting the body is the only way to go and gives you the chance to deal with other hard to get at items ie rear upper suspension arms. I am lucky I belong to an enthusiast club which has a workshop, hoist, engine stands etc available so quite do-able if you have the time and inclination.

The engines and electronics are the same on all gents. Where people have mainly come unstuck is using a late model Ford engine (because they are cheap and readily available) on an early (pre 09) LR. But,,, if you get a complete 09 LR motor for an earlier model that doesn't work either because,,,, it's the same as the late model Ford.
There is only one problem the injector pump from the late model won't communicate. Swap the pump. Change the sump over/swap. Swap the pulleys around on the front and way you go. People should charge 4-5k max for the work if they are fair. My engine was 2012 with 50000km on it. 4K. Complete with turbo etc. I have heard the injectors are different but mine have not been changed. I have done 90000km on it now. No probs.
We should be able to do swaps for under 10k really.