Paddle shifters - when do you use them?

In Drive rather than Sport, does using paddles in the latest 8-speed immediately revert to full auto or does the box stay in temporary manual mode until torque and throttle conditions for normal auto are met? My now-gone 2010 D4's 6-speed initially stayed in the temporary manual mode until normal conditions were met after paddle use (my home-grown version) but a s/w update at the end of 2012 altered the change logic to revert immediately to full auto.

My 2012 RRV's 8-speed goes to temporary manual mode when paddles are used so I'm wondering if it too would immediately revert to full auto with the latest TCM s/w version. Staying in temporary manual mode has its advantages but I'm being caught stopped at lights in 2nd rather than auto 1st.

My 2014 8 speed reverts to auto when normal conditions are met when using Drive. Not sure for Sport but I think it holds the gear.

Scott

Graeme,
From the thread link I posted previous to yours (at the same time probably).


In normal auto mode after a paddle shift it will change back to 'D' after about five seconds if left alone. In 'S' it wont change back to auto after the paddle shift unless you do hold the up paddle. I have been caught out holding a gear when using shift in 'S' mode.

I think you will find they start in 2nd anyway Greame;);););)
Havent used sport much either,I drive like an olde bastard and it goes well enough in drive;);););)
Andrew

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Originally Posted by LandyAndy

I use it to hold a speed on steep decents,rather than the brakes.

Not used the D4 alot off road yet,really enjoyed using the paddleshift to keep it in the gear I wanted on steep up and down sand tracks,brilliant!!!

Andrew

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I'm the same, using it selectively on steeper sand tracks. But for dirt/gravel/rock l do like using HDC rather than paddle if the descent is steep enough. It's amazingly good at holding a speed and walking down difficult/steep terrain. It's a bit of a leap of faith initially to trust it but it's worth it.

Scott

I still use paddle shift a fair bit in 'D' mode. (not daily but nearly) As per the old post linked earlier, it is very good in suburban areas or when merging or assisted engine braking. I am used to it! Change down one or two gears (or three or four) and up as required, then hold up paddle for 2 sec to get back to auto 'D'. Sport by itself is good enough though as well for suburbia and roundabouts/cornering. Add Llams to the equation set 20mm lower and whilst it's no sports car at 2.5t, it certainly makes for better handling, cornering with less body roll and I instantly notice the steering is more direct.


and yeah you probably guessed mine has not been bush yet. I new it wouldn't for the first year or two until setup.

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Originally Posted by LRD414

I'm the same, using it selectively on steeper sand tracks. But for dirt/gravel/rock l do like using HDC rather than paddle if the descent is steep enough. It's amazingly good at holding a speed and walking down difficult/steep terrain. It's a bit of a leap of faith initially to trust it but it's worth it.

Scott

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Not tried HDC yet,had it in the D2,WAY too fast,I realise these are much better,yet to play with it.Put the handbrake on at 80kmh yet???,no I havent tried that either:o:o:o
Andrew

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Originally Posted by Mungus

In normal auto mode after a paddle shift it will change back to 'D' after about five seconds if left alone. In 'S' it wont change back to auto after the paddle shift unless you do hold the up paddle. I have been caught out holding a gear when using shift in 'S' mode.

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So that's different logic again as the D4 now will even change back down straight after an up-shift if it doesn't like the conditions yet the RRV will hang onto the higher gear until auto conditions are met or significant throttle usage triggers a down-shift or revs drop below the threshold for the gear.

My RRV always starts in 1st when in Drive, as did the 6-speed D4 even if only for a few metres on light throttle.

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Originally Posted by LandyAndy

Not tried HDC yet,had it in the D2,WAY too fast,I realise these are much better,yet to play with it.Put the handbrake on at 80kmh yet???,no I havent tried that either:o:o:o
Andrew

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Yes I have :o:o At Gordon's drive day. That too was a major leap of faith :)
You really need to give HDC a go. Definitely not too fast.

Also, I've been meaning to give Llams -20 a go around town like Mungus mentioned. I wondered if it would sharpen things up.

Cheers,
Scott

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Originally Posted by LRD414

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Also, I've been meaning to give Llams -20 a go around town like Mungus mentioned. I wondered if it would sharpen things up.

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I tend to have my Llams set to Low most of the time around town, not sure if it is psychological or not, but feels tighter with the numerous roundabouts I deal with in Wagga. Also my wife finds it easier to get in and out of the car at this height. Only really switch it up when going on dirt roads, and then switch it straight to the +30 setting