Yeah, how many models do they need? I expect there must be a reasonable level of overlap between modelsQuote:
Originally Posted by johntins
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Yeah, how many models do they need? I expect there must be a reasonable level of overlap between modelsQuote:
Originally Posted by johntins
Apparently d5 does have low range as an option. May be ask Lockee as he is currently test driving the whole fleet
Exactly right! Our old Freelander 1 was a prime example of this. Traction control made up for the lack of articulation (to a point) and clearance was a bit of an issue (if you could stand the thumps and bangs, it was well tucked up under there), but the biggest problem by far was the lack of low range. You had to hit some obstacles so hard it used to make me wince! Sure raised some eyebrows where it did go, though!Quote:
Originally Posted by mfpoli
Couldn't imagine doing that with $50k (and up!) worth of car, though!!
2017 Land Rover Discovery review | 4X4 Australia
Says low range here as well!
The D5 is without doubt more capable off road than the D4. Discovery's biggest weakness off-road hasn't changed - it's still the driver!
What it's missing is the rugged/utilitarian feel of the D4 - bearing in mind for true rugged feel you need a defender, or 70 series, etc.
The big selling cards for me with the D4 were the square look of the car, the upright and hugely visible driving position, split load boot, super comfy ride, and space for 7 people. The D5 has probably improved the ride quality, but the other elements have been compromised, or lost.
The gadgets inside are cool, but I fear will age quickly.
Is it better than the competition? I'm not so sure any more...
What it appears to be is an around town car with off road ability.....[bigsad]Quote:
Originally Posted by veebs
Competition,you mean Audi Q7,BMW X5,RRS,Volvo something,jaguar F pace i think it is called.In some ways the others are way ahead,in other areas behind,depends what you want.If you don't need the off road ability,which i presume most in this market don't,then the others are well ahead in many areas.
From what i have been told its just as capable as the d4, but with more engine choices!
The boxy interior of a defender and a D4 makes it easy to fit a lot of gear in. Wh
en I did the LR experience, one of the participants was bemoaning the fact that her husband had gone to a RR Sport, and now she had trouble fitting all the baby gear in the back. She complained the back sloped down and was an issue. The Discovery 5 is almost the same as the RR inside. Sure there is a little uplift on the roof line, but I cannot remember seeing that inside the car. Hopefully LR listen to people and keep the boxy shape and the split tailgate in the defender. If not my back up car (78 series LC Wagon) is certainly looking the goods into the future.
Doesn't the rr sport have much less room than the vogue overall?
I don't think most of us are disputing that the car can be had with LR and E Diff, and will be hugely capable. It just 'seems' more of a soft roader than the D4, and less suitable as a tourer, and certain features, such as the split tailgate could be a deal breaker. It amazes me, as the split tailgate has been a signature RR feature since the first one, and is one of the main things that makes me lust after a D3/4.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vern