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    Something else to consider is parts availability. I have heard from several sources that fiat Chryslers parts stock in OZ is serverely lacking.

    As a D2 owner I can get just about any part same day or overnight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcg1 View Post
    With a budget of 65k its hard to find a sdv6 with 8 speed and good kms.
    I really don't want to buy one with over 70000 kms. The question of would you buy a 2013 model tdv6 with 50000 kms and 8 speed or would you buy a 2010 with 6 speed and sdv6
    I bought my MY13 SDV6 in November 2013 as a new car. I looked at the Jeep offerings and decided against them. Less space, both luggage and passenger, compared to the D4, foot operated parking brake (pet hate of mine) but what really turned me off was the numerous reports of failures and Chrysler's apparent lack of concern.

    With regard to 2010 versus 2013 you would be better off with the 2013 as the technology progressed enormously over the period to the extent that a 2013 without an E-Diff is considered as good as or better than a 2010 with an E-Diff. Basically they improved the terrain response technology as the years went by. In case you don't know what an E-Diff is - it's like having an additional rear diff lock. That said they are all computer controlled and not user selectable from my understanding.

    BTW, mine only has 14.5k kilometers on it after 2 years so there are probably other relatively low mileage ones out there for sale.

    Martin

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    Check out rated towing ability, as some Jeeps are quite low rated for towing. The Disco has been towing car of the year every year for ages. The Disco should also be roomier inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jcg1 View Post
    The question of would you buy a 2013 model tdv6 with 50000 kms and 8 speed or would you buy a 2010 with 6 speed and sdv6

    Easy, the 2013 for sure. Better gearbox, improved terrain response programs, plus a number of fixes already applied to known issues. I think also better functionality with Bluetooth etc too.

    It's probably the best vehicle available to cover all the uses you're looking for.

    Caveat: never driven a jeep and never will.

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    My dad bought a jeep ... Nuf said. He's now going to drive my my15 D4 sdv6 for a day - he'll be a convert!
    He has had the jeep on the tilt tray many times in the year & half of ownership. ( like 2weeks after taking delivery for the 1st time)

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    We have a 2008 D3 2.7 TDV6 and a 2010 D4 3L TDV6 (now called the SDV6 for confusion). 60,000 and 110,000 kms respectively. The only repair (apart from normal consumables) has been an alternator recently on the D4. It's far and away the best vehicle I've ever owned. I went vehicle shopping in September, drove the Grand Cherokee, X5, etc etc. Nothing is as refined or as practical. Also test drove a Range Rover Sport, but way less room, and not as useful for my purposes.

    Ordered a fully optioned D4, which was unloaded in Melbourne on December 23rd, and will hopefully make it's way to Tasmania by around 12th January (Christmas break is delaying things!). (And we're keeping both of the current cars too).

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    a guy at work was in a similar position except he was buying new
    the disco was more expensive due to add on's.

    he went for the disco as it was superior design, build.
    6 months on and he doesnt regret his decision.
    Current Cars:
    2013 E3 Maloo, 350kw
    2008 RRS, TDV8
    1995 VS Clubsport

    Previous Cars:
    2008 ML63, V8
    2002 VY SS Ute, 300kw
    2002 Disco 2, LS1 conversion

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    Hi Jcg1,

    I will probably cop a heap of **** for this, however here it is.

    I bought the first of the 3.0Lt Disco 4's back in 2009. Took it off road, towed with it etc and couldn't fault it. However it did develop a problem (which I won't go into).

    Bought a JGC Limited diesel late 2014 and are really happy with it. The diesel engine with the 8 speed is awesome and extremely economical....and I paid about $30K less than my Disco 4.

    Of course you will hear stories about Jeeps but everyone I know with one have had trouble free runs.

    Your choice will depend on your use. I no longer needed the 7 seats and don't require the extra space. I also don't take the Jeep off road.

    If you check out the Jeep forum you will find niggles as you do with all brand forums including this one.

    I suggest you drive both vehicles and check out as many forums as possible prior to making up your mind

    At the end of the day, if you do choose a Disco, you won't be disappointed.

    Cheers, Craig
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    On paper the Overland Jeep Grand Cherokee is a very good option however three things put me off:
    1. Reliability
    2. Service schedule & cost of servicing.
    3. Resale value.

    The service schedule is 10,000k & very expensive with no deals to be had.
    I bought a new SDV6SE & was entitled to corporate package which gave me reduced dealer delivery fee, free rubber mats & free scheduled service to 100,000km.
    At the time I got the tech pack & black pack thrown in.
    If the budget allows get a MY13 with les than 100,000km & then negotiate the genuine extended warranty.
    I did drive both the TDV6 & the SDV6 there is a fair bit of difference in performance + you get a few niceties standard i.e. xenon lights, electric seats, seven seats etc.
    Jeep reliability is rumoured to be getting better although one of my mates bought a new Cherokee & he is not happy with the procedure for fixing warranty items, basically it needs to go in for assessment, then needs to be approved & then they ring you when it the repairs have been approved, this necessitates two trips to the dealer.

    Good luck with your research & choice.
    Cheers

    Chuck

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    Space requirements are personal. If you're towing you probably don't need so much in vehicle storage.
    You get more for your money with a Discovery than a RRS. We only have the latter so my wife can park in more city car parks.
    I've read in reviews that while the Jeep on paper has similar 4WD capability, it's underwhelming in the flesh. It's a sweet engine though, and anecdotally Jeep support is good - eg a driveshaft delivered and fitted in Broome within 48 hours
    Now 2016 D4 HSE 'Leo' and Steve the Triumph Speed Twin
    Then 2010 D4 3.0 HSE 'James'
    Then 2010 RRS TDV8 'Roger' w traxide DBS, UHF, Cooper Zeons, Superchips remap
    Then 2010 D4 TDV6 'Jumbo' w traxide DBS
    First love 2002 D2 TD5 'Disco Stu'

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