Which is better Off Road a D3/4 or a late model Defender? ... Puma 110

**ozscott** · 13th February 2016, 05:40 PM

Hehe...its going to 100 pages! !

**scarry** · 13th February 2016, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by TerryO

So what did you learn? ...

um,another Puma driver has written a load of BS.....

Maybe we should all go back to one of Gordons earlier posts...and have a re read.

**1nando** · 13th February 2016, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by scarry

um,another Puma driver has written a load of BS.....

Maybe we should all go back to one of Gordons earlier posts...and have a re read.

Fact: puma weighs 1/2 ton less carrys 1/4 ton more
Fact; puma roof can carry 150kg, d4 only half that
Fact: puma has better body clearance.
Fact: puma has better angles of approach,exit, traversing etc
Fact: puma has the rear wheel located in a more appropriate location when off road. Its not under the car like a giant tampon
Fact: puma has and fits bigger tyres if required
Fact: pumas chassis has lasted the test of time. Its robust and bloody strong and thats why miliatry forces around the world have embraced this vehicle as a machine of war. Everything from ambulances to assault vehicles

Hows that for BS?

Im not disputing the d4s strength but rather trying to highlight that the defender is tried and tested. You blokes make it sound like they are made of cheese.

The disco is the model that falls between the defender and the range rover. Its the vehicle that settles on the middle ground, the defender is the workhorse and has always been (quoted from land rover themselves) LRs toughest vehicle!

**Toxic_Avenger** · 13th February 2016, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by 1nando

Fact: puma has the rear wheel located in a more appropriate location when off road. Its not under the car like a giant tampon

I lol'd

**TerryO** · 13th February 2016, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by 1nando

Fact: puma weighs 1/2 ton less carrys 1/4 ton more
Fact; puma roof can carry 150kg, d4 only half that
Fact: puma has better body clearance.
Fact: puma has better angles of approach,exit, traversing etc
Fact: puma has the rear wheel located in a more appropriate location when off road. Its not under the car like a giant tampon
Fact: puma has and fits bigger tyres if required
Fact: pumas chassis has lasted the test of time. Its robust and bloody strong and thats why miliatry forces around the world have embraced this vehicle as a machine of war. Everything from ambulances to assault vehicles

Hows that for BS?

Im not disputing the d4s strength but rather trying to highlight that the defender is tried and tested. You blokes make it sound like they are made of cheese.

The disco is the model that falls between the defender and the range rover. Its the vehicle that settles on the middle ground, the defender is the workhorse and has always been (quoted from land rover themselves) LRs toughest vehicle!

So old mate you think a Defender has better approach and departure angles and late model Disco's can't fit big tyres do you?

Check this out and weep!

**sctsprin** · 13th February 2016, 06:54 PM

It is live axle though for some weird reason ��

**TerryO** · 13th February 2016, 07:09 PM

Well spotted, yes it does, it is a limited edition model that was built for the South African market. ...

**ozscott** · 13th February 2016, 07:15 PM

Hey a real 4x 4

(Wasnt me).

Cheers

**LandyAndy** · 13th February 2016, 07:17 PM

Originally Posted by sctsprin

It is live axle though for some weird reason ��

Thats a coil sprung version

Air suspension was only on the up-market models to start with.
Now the big secret is out,the D4 actually has a ladder chassis it will be ok as a new Defender chassis.Chuck a beer can body on it and it too will weigh less and carry more load than a D4

Andrew

**Disco-tastic** · 13th February 2016, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by 1nando

Fact: puma weighs 1/2 ton less carrys 1/4 ton more

So what your saying is that all up the D4 chassis can support more weight? (-1/2+1/4 = -1/4 )

Fact; puma roof can carry 150kg, d4 only half that

I thought this was for high speed stability. The D4 roof can actually carry much more than its rated for. From what i hear the defender cant go fast enough to tip over

Fact: puma has better body clearance.
Fact: puma has better angles of approach,exit, traversing etc
Fact: puma has the rear wheel located in a more appropriate location when off road. Its not under the car like a giant tampon

hmmm im not sure you understand what a tampon is or does...else you really didnt listen in anatomy class

Fact: puma has and fits bigger tyres if required
Fact: pumas chassis has lasted the test of time. Its robust and bloody strong and thats why miliatry forces around the world have embraced this vehicle as a machine of war. Everything from ambulances to assault vehicles

Hows that for BS?

Im not disputing the d4s strength but rather trying to highlight that the defender is tried and tested. You blokes make it sound like they are made of cheese.

errr one guy had the traction control break his front diff when the brakes engaged. That sounds pretty soft to me!

The disco is the model that falls between the defender and the range rover.

And thats what makes it soooooo good. Capability and comfort

Its the vehicle that settles on the middle ground, the defender is the workhorse and has always been (quoted from land rover themselves) LRs toughest vehicle!

Cheers

Dan

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