2016 SDV6 SE Add ons

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Originally Posted by AnD3rew

Welcome and nice car.

I agree with Rich that Llams would be my #2 mod after AT tyres. Those two things will do more than anything else in terms of real improvement in off road ability. 18" wheels is probably the third in that category.

I think you are on the right track. I have the front bar and winch and have yet to use either in anger but still nice to know they are there and the winch is handy for all sorts of non recovery things as well. I also have a safari Snorkel and so far there is only 1 time I really needed it when I dropped into an unexpected hole in a river crossing and I have no doubt it saved my motor but to be honest that was a bit of carelessness on my part I'm sure if I hadn't had the snorkel I would have been more paranoid and checked the crossing more carefully.

I fine the long range tank very useful but again as long as you plan carefully and if you have capacity in the camper to carry extra fuel it is not necessary.

I can honestly say that the tank and bar definitely change the handling and feel of the car and not for the better, it handles it fine and it isn't a problem but I do ocassionally mourn the wonderfully nimble car like feel of the Disco pre mod.

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Hi Andrew,

The car I am coming from has ARB bar, winch, snorkel and lift. But it badly affected the road handling and I do a lot of road miles. Would I like them on the Disco? Yep. Do I want to sacrifice noise, road handling manners and fuel economy etc for it? Nope. Thanks very much for your thoughts on this, there's no right or wrong answers, it's all about balance. CT has jerry can holders in it too, so I have that covered when touring.

Now on to Llams. A few of you have said it's a high priority. I was surprised that the "off road" height drops down at 50km/hr. I certainly have belted along some rough roads at 80+ but I did expect that the Disco would have ample clearance for that kind of road. I'm going to have to look more in to that and take if off road to see for myself. I just want to keep the ride and handling as unaffected as possible, having learned from turning my previous lovely car in to a tank. :D

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Originally Posted by Geedublya

Definitely LLams, rods or IID tool, I'd go the IID tool if you are only adjusting the height for off road use and want a diagnostic tool as well.

Why are wanting to upgrade the main battery? The standard batteries are large and decent quality, with the Traxide kit and a decent second battery I don't think this will be needed.

I didn't bother converting my trailer plug on the D4, I did it on the D3 and it is pretty tight in there. I just made my own conversion cable and leave it attached to the camper.

I got the Traxide kit with 2 rear merit sockets.

If you aren't towing the trailer in serious off road territory the D4 hitch is adequate. I have a Mitch Hitch from my D3 and haven't installed it yet.

Side steps that aren't a proper slider will get damaged quickly and can damage the sills.

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Didn't realise the main battery was good. I ran a 100A/Hr marine battery as main battery in previous car, which meant i never had to worry about accesories, radio left on etc. Mind you, I had a winch so it was for that too.

I tow a few different trailers, for Scouts and other things, so I wanted to avoid using an adapter all the time. However, if it is a PITA to convert to a flat plug, then I'll leave it. It's not a priority really.

We do take the trailer off road usually, so I am unsure whether the standard hitch is good enough or not. I guess time will tell on that one.

Steps on the Pajero were good and don't fold up easily. But steps provide height access for putting things on the roof as well as protection from underneath. The sliders with stand off bar will stop you bashing the bottom, but won't stop the door getting sand blasted much. I'll have to keep looking at options there.

Thanks heaps for the feedback.

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Originally Posted by Smocky

Now on to Llams. A few of you have said it's a high priority. I was surprised that the "off road" height drops down at 50km/hr. I certainly have belted along some rough roads at 80+ but I did expect that the Disco would have ample clearance for that kind of road. I'm going to have to look more in to that and take if off road to see for myself. I just want to keep the ride and handling as unaffected as possible, having learned from turning my previous lovely car in to a tank. :D

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Llams has no effect on ride and handling unless you turn the knob to change the height setting, in which case it is for the better. It is just a way to change height independent of the car's height change switch. It doesn't change the suspension in any way. You can't do 80 along a sand track without either Llams or Gordon's rods.

Didn't you get a round to flat adapter with the car? Mine came with one. One thing that I should have done is get the Traxide with the Anderson plug, and change the white round plug to Anderson, so that I can charge the batteries through that, although charging through the white does charge the main batter rather than just the Aux (which, if the main is low, may not charge the main as it is isolated).

I'd also agree that rater than get the LLAMS, get the IID Tools BT, and you can control the height from there (there are presets), as well as have diagnostics and CCF editing.

If the interior lights are not LED (my MY13 weren't), change that to LEDs; much lower consumption when camping (opening and closing doors), and brighter too.

Also suggest a cargo barrier.

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Originally Posted by phl

I'd also agree that rater than get the LLAMS, get the IID Tools BT, and you can control the height from there (there are presets), as well as have diagnostics and CCF editing.

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I have both Llams and an iiD Tool. You can get the height preset functionality with the iiD, so I agree that this approach saves money. However, the convenience of Llams should be considered as well. No waiting, no plugging in the iiD each time the height setting needs changing. Also, I'm not sure if the iiD Tool would have the recovery mode that Llams has. This gets you normal height if an ABS related fault has dropped the car to Limp Mode height (hope I've got that technically correct). The iiD may have equivalent functionality but either way, I think these are other factors worth considering.

Scott

I've got a mitch hitch on my D3 and it sets up my camper with the perfect drawbar height for off road work. The original would have been totally unacceptable, but then again the D3 factory hitch was a hell of a lot lower than the D4 one.


I was never going to bother with LLAMS myself, but I found a second hand unit at a good price so decided to get it - I've found it useful for more than just changing heights - my D3 gets an intermittent YAW sensor fault every now and again and that shuts off DCS and a few other things, but also drops it down to access height. Previously I had to shut the engine off and restart, but now with the LLAMS installed I just flick the switch around to +50mm and normal ride height is restored without having to shut the car down.

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Originally Posted by LRD414

This gets you normal height if an ABS related fault has dropped the car to Limp Mode height (hope I've got that technically correct). The iiD may have equivalent functionality but either way, I think these are other factors worth considering.

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Should be able to; the LLAMS fools the sensor, whereas IID Tools re-calibrates the height the sensor works to. Different sides of the same coin.

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Originally Posted by phl

Should be able to; the LLAMS fools the sensor, whereas IID Tools re-calibrates the height the sensor works to. Different sides of the same coin.

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IID tool might also clear the fault that caused the suspension to drop.

Cheers

Dan

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Originally Posted by phl

I'd also agree that rater than get the LLAMS, get the IID Tools BT, and you can control the height from there (there are presets), as well as have diagnostics and CCF editing.

If the interior lights are not LED (my MY13 weren't), change that to LEDs; much lower consumption when camping (opening and closing doors), and brighter too.

Also suggest a cargo barrier.

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Definitely going to look in to the IID. I would only really use the height adjustment for off road use, so I like the "dual purpose" nature of the diagnostics tool.

I changed all my lights in the Pajero to LED, so that's a good one to add, thanks. I changed my tail lights and indicators too, not sure if I will go that far in the D4.

I have drawers and a fridge slide in the Pajero, so I am not sure about the cargo barrier to be honest. I frequently put that back seats down to get length in the back, but it's a good suggestion.

Thanks all.

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Originally Posted by Smocky

I have drawers and a fridge slide in the Pajero, so I am not sure about the cargo barrier to be honest. I frequently put that back seats down to get length in the back, but it's a good suggestion.

Thanks all.

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Never did get the drawers for the Pajero, but did have a cargo barrier as I stacked things up.

I do have drawers on one side in the D4 (so I can still raise the seat on the right to get to the spare wheel winder), but have the fridge on the dropped middle back seat so that we can get cold drinks whilst driving, so have the fridge strapped to the barrier. Also have a solid water tank strapped to that too (obviously on the load bay side). I also have my tent up against the barrier, as it fits in just nicely with sleeping mats on each side (against the windows).