All the time or not?

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Originally Posted by Celtoid

So not sure if I've missed something here folks but ...


MY13 D4 SE (the one I own) you cannot stop the car going into Park once you turn the engine off. I just tested this .... Reverse selected, Drive selected......slight delay.... then the transmission selector indicates that it has now selected Park. Dash display indicates the same.

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The 8-speed box will auto park as it is a select by wire system, so it can do that if it wishes. The 6-speed being a cable select cannot self park. The PDF I uploaded is an excerpt from a ZF produced document, and explains how both cable and select-by-wire systems' "park" functions work... LR have obviously changed the EPB programming so that it no longer automatically engages because they can just put the gearbox in park instead (when shutting down with gearbox in neutral)

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Originally Posted by Grentarc

The 8-speed box will auto park as it is a select by wire system, so it can do that if it wishes. The 6-speed being a cable select cannot self park. The PDF I uploaded is an excerpt from a ZF produced document, and explains how both cable and select-by-wire systems' "park" functions work... LR have obviously changed the EPB programming so that it no longer automatically engages because they can just put the gearbox in park instead

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Thanks Justin,


I just read further through the threads and realised that 'rocket rod' had tested a little further and I can concur.


Neutral leaves the car rolling ... that I can understand .... haven't tried the Door Opened thing yet ..... Turning off in D selects P but definitely does not apply the EPB. That I cannot explain.

I do have a theory as to why the 8-speed do not use the EPB automatically - the design of the Park in the select-by-wire boxes is a cylinder through a disc - this design would be able to endure much more stress than the traditional "pawl" of the cable operated park. I read somewhere that BMW(I think??) don't have a park brake as such anymore, and just use the park function of the auto transmission, as it can be in gear and still activate the park cylinder due to it just being another solenoid to activate.

That makes sense...

As for even attempting to use just neutral and the EPB (more in the 6 speed), in neutral the vehicle doesn't shut down - it keeps systems alive...

I was more asking from a vehicle-secured-against-rolling-away view point but yes, that is a good reason to put it in park :p

Cheers

Dan

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Originally Posted by rocket rod

I thought I would check out how the EPB works on my MY16 D4 so today I stopped, put it in N and turned ignition off. P was not selected automatically and the car started to roll away. Next, I turned the ignition off when in D, the car will automatically select P but EPB is not engaged automatically.

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When I was checking out a disco purchase i spoke with the Guy at house of Rover in Brisbane and he said that cars that don't release the EPB manually and use the auto release function exhibit a lot more wear than those that choose to release it manually. Its not the first time I have heard of this, our Pug 508 had the same feature and the dealer also warned us about using the auto-release feature. Sadly he told us that after we had to replace he pads AND ROTORS at 30,000km :(

On a trip to the city on the the weekend I used the Disco Tastic protocol.
Its MUCH smoother on the trans if you select acsess height whilst parking and the park brake whilst in neutral then put it in park.
A habit I will be trying to teach myself.I already have been selecting acsess height wilst seeking a park spot.
Andrew