Tensioner snapping off the mount TDV6

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Originally Posted by PerthDisco

Thanks to this forum I changed the oil pump housing at the time the belts were done on my MY08. I had to force / cajole / beg the Indy LR shop to do it as according to him he had never heard of it.

When you take in any research or info off the web they absolutely hate it I have found.

The new part has the same part number as the old I believe which is evidence enough of a sneaky admission of guilt.

When I picked up the car I looked at the old part with the mechanic who noted the significant difference in the design. According to him though the boss would not mandate this for other cars booked in ahead of mine for same job.

A fair part of the fault probably lies in over-torquing but who would ever take responsibility for that?

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I had same issue, tried to get my indie LR people to do the housing when I got my belts replaced. Asked them serveral times about it and each times was told I'd be wasting my money as they had never seen one go.


Now interestingly about 12 months after the timing belts were replaced they also fitted a new alternator for me. I'd assume this tensioner has to be re-adjusted which would further stress the flange/housing?


Last Sept the engine beat itself to death when this tensioner bracket failed. Cost me $13k for a low km Territory engine. Indie LR would not come to the party in any way, shape of form.


I now get my work done by a different LR Indie closer to Brisbane City area.


It is now such a known issues globally, I am surprised there has not been a class action against LR, how many people just in Australia have had to fork out for a replacement engine? Anywhere between say $12k and $25k a pop!!

Alternator replacement doesn't require the tim8ng belt to be touched at all.

Jc

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Originally Posted by PeterOZ

I had same issue, tried to get my indie LR people to do the housing when I got my belts replaced. Asked them serveral times about it and each times was told I'd be wasting my money as they had never seen one go.


Now interestingly about 12 months after the timing belts were replaced they also fitted a new alternator for me. I'd assume this tensioner has to be re-adjusted which would further stress the flange/housing?


Last Sept the engine beat itself to death when this tensioner bracket failed. Cost me $13k for a low km Territory engine. Indie LR would not come to the party in any way, shape of form.


I now get my work done by a different LR Indie closer to Brisbane City area.


It is now such a known issues globally, I am surprised there has not been a class action against LR, how many people just in Australia have had to fork out for a replacement engine? Anywhere between say $12k and $25k a pop!!

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Although I sympathize with your engine drama last year, I think I need to stick up for the LR indie that you originally used.

I recall your original posts back in August last year when your engine went. I have cut & pasted your comments at the time:

1st Post from 1st August 2015:
Was advised I could or could not do the housing. Think it was additional $1200 and as I was pressed for cash I elected to not have that replaced.

I suspect that is what has let go.

2nd post from 1st August 2015:

I'm not sure if exact amount but it around that number.

I had a partner at the time who was totally $$$ fixated so spending another $1200 really set her off 😡
She is gone so don't have that annoyance.

They did advise to do it and I had read on here and disco3 site about it

Always wiser in retrospect. I just hope not too much other damage was caused.

Motor was turning over freely so guess that is encouraging.

Onto the tilt tray tues and wait to find out the $$$ so I can talk to the bank!!

I have used this indie for several years now and they have been fantastic and I don't believe they deserve to be bagged out when they did advise you at the time to do the housing.

Note I did not mention the name in the post but you delighted in dragging out an old post. I did ask them serveral times if the housing needed to be replaced.


Each time was told they had never seen one go and not to waste my money!!


So no I won't stick with them thank you very much!! :censored:

arrogance of some people astounds me. Yet another keyboard warrior!

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Originally Posted by PeterOZ

arrogance of some people astounds me...

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Me too...

interesting that instead of people trying to help each other here all they want to do is attack when you comment on something or have an opinion.


Keep up the great work lads, you must be proud of yourselves.

I wonder if anyone has tried welding a new bit onto the block.

Seeing that it is an inert piece of the block it should be possible to rebuild the mount.
I have seen an old Aston Martin block where the steps for the wet sleeves were rebuilt so I wonder whether it can be done once the block is stripped.

Maybe not possible economically on a built up engine , but geez you could get a lot of specialist welding done for 10K.
There must be quite a few blocks sitting around in workshops.

Regards Philip A

Not sure what you are trying to get at there Philip, as the part that breaks is part of the oil pump housing, not the block. It's the upper left (as you're looking at it, between two bolt heads) of the nice shiny bit in the centre of this picture from when I changed mine
http://www.aulro.com/afvb/attachment...1&d=1465946645
There's not a lot of space to weld a new mount in directly to the block (and the block is compacted graphite iron, I've no idea how easy to weld that is)

... and with no timing belt to keep the moving bits behaving themselves the engine beats itself to death ... broken valves, pistons, con rods etc


Its a very nasty & expensive outcome due to very poor LR design on the housing and / or gorillas using a torque wrench - so I have read here.


LR put out a beefed up housing and some repairers insist that the housing must be replaced if it is the older style housing when the belts are done. Based on what I have now read and my own experience I totally agree and wish I had insisted too. Anyway I now have a very low km territory engine in mine. <15,000km

I still think LR have a case to answer to with the number of dead engines as a result of this tensioner bracket failing.


attackers in 3, 2, 1 ... :angel: