Thread: D4 resale value after D5 release??

I do expect they will be dumped for the school runs in favour of the D5, but until the D5 has been proven in Australian conditions re their reliability, and suitability in the bush, the D4 will remain the choice in the short term.
It is also a bit of a gamble to get the very first of a new model as, no matter how much testing has been done, there will be issues. How well JLR Australia will support those vehicles is yet to be seen.

Hi Nunans, You post a very interesting questions. My view is, and I am sure many will disagree and you are very welcome too. I have found that Discovery's have really good resale, normally over 62% after 3 years. I find the Audi Q7 is closer to 50%. I think the reasons for this are several; Land Rover don't really push the discovery, thus sales are relatively low, their running costs for things like tyres and brakes are low compared with other European cars. There is large demand second hand for a competent 4wd with 7 seats that can tow 3.5T.
So I think the new D5 will have little impact on cars 2 years and older especially as the new car is going to be dearer. Though if you were buying a new discovery between now and next June, I will suggest you wait until June when the D5 is in the market and any left over new D4's will be heavily discounted. Though I image they will be sold our well before the D5 arrives. I find that the used price for a discovery, obviously is affected by condition and service history, but taking that the same, mileage has more impact on price than age. Except when the models change, a 2013 and 2012 in the same condition and mileage, the 2013 will be worth more due to the upgraded model. I also think some people will prefer the 3l motor over a 4 2l for serious outback work.
I am interested to see other peoples views.
Cheers
Mark

I'm of the hope that D4's values really DROP with the release of the D5!

Then I will trade my D3 for a D4. Preferably an 8 speed.

So, if you own a D4 you want the value to stay up, but if you want a D4 you want the value to drop.

I will be watching the market.

Jonesfam

I don't care what happens to the resale as I'm not getting rid of the D4.

In fact, when I got the D4 2 years back there was talk then about the next model Discovery being full aluminium and Monocoque construction. I recall reading about how the weight of the vehicle would drop by about 400kg or so.

This might be great for fuel economy but in terms of being able to prudently tow a large caravan I wanted a heavy vehicle. As it is the D4 in touring mode ends up being about the same mass as my van so that is marginal but I accept that and drive to conditions accordingly.

If the Discovery was 400kg or so lighter than it currently is I'd be better off buying a Jeep Grand Cherokee or twin cab ute compared to a Discovery. You just can't make the tow vehicle lighter and lighter and still expect it to tow a large van as safely as a heavier tug, regardless of all the electronic "do dads" that the tug has.

What I think that as far as being a caravan tow vehicle in the future, the D5 may well have a 3500kg tow capacity but I'd bet you'd find that all that will happen is that D5's will not be as suitable tow vehicles for large vans and the Landcruiser 200's will get a market enhancement for caravan towing.

I suspect that good quality D4's will be looked on as better towing vehicles due to their weight compared to D5's which may enhance the resale of D4's for that market and hence re-sale, (presuming anyone really want's to sell one). I know a few people that really would like a D4 even now, so I feel blest to have one.

One day they'll update tax laws and the wasteful changing of perfectly good vehicles may slow..

As for towing... the quicker they reduce max van weights the better.. but, a 450kg lighter vehicle is not going to be a problem towing those ridiculously overweight 3500kg road blockers people insist on lugging around...

If you think a vehicle purchase requires consideration of resale then you're missing part of the equation.. TCO and HDO are VERY important...

Originally Posted by Tombie

As for towing... the quicker they reduce max van weights the better.. but, a 450kg lighter vehicle is not going to be a problem towing those ridiculously overweight 3500kg road blockers people insist on lugging around...

When you're towing a caravan you are never stuck in a traffic queue, lol

Originally Posted by Tombie

TCO and HDO are VERY important...

What are tco and hdo?
I'm not worried about resale value for me as i would intend to keep it for 10 years plus but current resale value is actually my purchase price which is a real dollar for dollar cost.

I found that a new ranger for example has a tow rating of 3500kg but the gross combination is less than the gvm of the ranger plus 3500kg so you can only tow 3500kg if you stay under 6000kg combination by leaving the tow vehicle empty....
The existing landrover however has a full 3500kg of tow capacity on top of the fully laden tow vehicle weight.
I dont know the d5 specs yet.

The reason i started the thread is because i'm in the market for a ysed d4 but dont want to pay 20000 too much today for one if i could have held out till next year and got the same car alot cheaper.

Ive never owned a landrover but i test drove a q7 x5 and d4 with the wife fully expecting the disco to drive something like an ex army defender but we both got out and agreed that for us it was the best vehicle we had ever driven.

Later my car finally died and we were ready to get our d4 and for what we want owners are asking 65k+ which at the moment might be the value but im really thinking the same car will be under 50 next year, i guess if i hold off i can find out before i dump my money and if they do hold the price ive just lost out by not having one in my garage for 6 months and i'll still have to pay 65k...

the great benefit of waiting to buy a used car is it will keep dropping in Value. I am fairly sure the used car you looked at this year, will be cheaper next year. My calculations, a Land Rover will drop in Price approx. 10% per year for the first 6 years form the original price. It seems crazy, and this is assuming 15km pa. So on an $80k car, they are dropping $8k per year. If you are looking for a car less than 2 years old, you may find some additional drop is price when the new model has filtered through. They also drop 10% as you drive them out the showroom.