Fuel Consumption for D4 with Trailer

I'm not sure about others, but, I believe ours is not really suited to the High Country if that's what your intending on doing. There's some pretty rough sections of tracks in amongst it all, and the length of the draw bar on a FF means you'll be scull dragging it over and through a lot of obstacles.
In this regard, a Rear Fold, with its shorter bar would be a better buy in my opinion. I would think in either configuration, you'd find a unit under 20K without trouble.
Ours is an Ezytrail unit, of which I wanted the RF, but, the Mrs wanted the FF when she saw you could sit inside it without the need to carry chairs and tables to put inside it. She won :angel:

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Originally Posted by DIS4

Thanks for the information, I haven't seen many soft floor Tare weight around 900kg. It shouldn't be much difference, I like ford ward folding, hope the extra investment will be worth while. Any forward folding camper you recommend? I like Black series dominator and patron, they are reasonably value and quality build. Below $20000. MDC also provides good value.

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Our soft floor is around 1400kg to 1500kg, has a long drawbar, the trailer itself(box section with walkin) is 9 x 4 so fairly long, we've dragged it everywhere, multipal High country trips, the Gulf, the Cape, Flinders, out west, the Simpson Desert.

2.7L D4 we would average around the 15l/100k, has been up around the 17l/100k with a headwind and hilly country, soon as you go off road, the economy goes up, especially when going slow.

We recently purchased a Lighweight Camper(brand) some may know this brand, it weighs about 750kg, what a difference that makes on economy, we have been as low as 10.5l/100k and now average 13l/100k. of coarse the average changes depending on the road conditions, hilly offroad is the worst, but over a long trip, 12.5 to 14l/100k is the norm now, instead of 14 to 17l/100k.

Our old camper sits gathering dust out the front, shame really:(

The 2.7/ D4 is not as fuel afficent as the 3.0l or the D3 2.7l for some strange reason:eek:

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Originally Posted by DIS4

Thanks for the information, I haven't seen many soft floor Tare weight around 900kg. It shouldn't be much difference, I like ford ward folding, hope the extra investment will be worth while. Any forward folding camper you recommend? I like Black series dominator and patron, they are reasonably value and quality build. Below $20000. MDC also provides good value.

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I would suggest you avoid both like the plague...

A few Google searches will provide info.

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Originally Posted by Redback

The 2.7/ D4 is not as fuel afficent as the 3.0l or the D3 2.7l for some strange reason:eek:

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My 2.7 D3 seems to do about the same as yours when loaded with the camper trailer. I averaged 16.1L/100km for a 2500km trip recently with the camper in tow. The headwind on the way down was what blew the average out - 17.8L/100 on the way down and 14.5L/100 on the way home

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Originally Posted by shanegtr

My 2.7 D3 seems to do about the same as yours when loaded with the camper trailer. I averaged 16.1L/100km for a 2500km trip recently with the camper in tow. The headwind on the way down was what blew the average out - 17.8L/100 on the way down and 14.5L/100 on the way home

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Likewise with a 1200kg camper trailer, roof rack and spare wheel on top, doing 100 kph and not molly coddling it, we were a tad over 14l/100km.

Have attached fuel data of recent 8100kM trip. This is a 3.0L RRS towing a 2t off road poptop, (similar to Lifestyle AT12). Bitumen cruise speed about 100kM/Hr. The <12l/100 figures were no van. The second Broken Hill entry was no towing with 90% at 100kM/hr. Note the error in the vehicle computer consumption L/100 to the real figures (bowser litres). Same ODO kM for both calcs. Understood this was a common problem.
The speedo and ODO are correct to within 1.5%

Paul

It's something that always has me questioning....two exact cars one off the line after the other and they can measure the fuel differently. We need to take in to account the different bowsers, of course, but come on...

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Originally Posted by Tombie

I would suggest you avoid both like the plague...

A few Google searches will provide info.

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I did find more negative reviews than others, one might be they sell more than others. I heard GIC changed new management now, their black series dominator and patron seems quality built with good value.

What about this following camper, seems very good, too good to be true, almost Tempe me to fly over to have a look.


RRP $24999 we sell for $15050.
Chassis Heavy duty military style straight thru chassis and hot dipped galvanised 100x50x4mm
*Fully welded and sealed, stone guard paint protection applied underneath and to front .
*Independent suspension military style with heavy duty shocks x 2 each side with coil springs
*Paint 2 pack full gloss baked enamel two coats
*Stabilizer legs x 4 military style
* Jockey wheel heavy duty 10 inch
* Winches x 2 heavy duty to assist opening and closing camper trailer
* Mud tyres X 4 with alloy wheels 265/75R16
* 2 x Recovery points military style
* Water tank 130L high grade stainless steel suitable for drinking water with 12 v electric high pressure pump
*Kitchen Stainless Steel with sink and tap. Slide out Kitchen with 2 additional slide cutlery draws
*4 burner gas stove AGA approved with stainless steel wind protector and additional kitchen bench slide out type
* Stone guard for maximum protection with 2 x 20 Lt Jerry can holders , 2 x 9kg Gas Holders
* Brakes and Hubs Military Style 12inch 4WD type with electric brakes.
*Electrical lights and power , 3 x LED lights internal, 1 x LED above fridge draw, 1 x LED lights kitchen Light side mounted.
*1x 2000watts inverter 240volts , 3 x 12 V cigarette light ,50 amp Anderson plug, 2 x Deep Cycle Batteries 100AH
* Main switch board with breaker and additional individual switches.
Tent
*Queen size bed area at the front spring mattress 2 person , additional bed area at the rear 2 person, middle area can
also convert to sleeping area 2 person. ( Main 5.480m x 1.800m )
*Lounge area with cushions and dining table that is moveable
*Full size annex can be fully enclosed or open ( 5.480m x 2.400m )
* Tent material 16oz heavy duty canvas and midge and mosquito proof netting on all doors and windows
*Bonus Free Upgrade include ,
? Boat Rack Military Style,
? Shower Room,
? Gas Hot Water Heater,
? 180 Watts Solar Panels,
? 2000 Watt Inverter 240 volts
? Portable Toilet
? 4 X MUD TYRES WITH ALLOY RIMS
? QUEENS SIZE SPRING MATTRESS
? 2 X BATTERIES DEEP CYCLE 100 AH
? 2 X 20LT JERRY CANS

Sorry, off topic on camper. Can My original tow bar still fit for the purpose of the trip? Such as lost city in NSW, Fraser Island; eventually Red Centre, cape York and Simpson. Otherwise, seems Mitch Hitch the better option.

Just returned from a short trip away - 500km .VHC via Mansfield .

Towing our camper 910kg fully loaded - thank you free weighbridge on Hume@Tallarook !

Computer claims 10.7l/100 @ 100km/hr - but average speed was a tad under 80km/hr .

No real hard work , just gravelly roads and a bit of up n down .

Car tows really well , only threw one fault ! ( but it might be a biggy .....)

Oh and the remote fob battery went flat ....in an area of no internet or mobile service .
So pack one of those !

Also , dont buy a camper based on price - i know its a consideration but you truly get what you pay for .
There are some bargains in the secondhand market , maybe try to rent a couple prior to laying the cashola down .