Effect of D5 on used D4 market

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Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

Funniest thing ever. Reducing insurance premiums? Believe it when I see it.

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NRMA have been offering it since 2014.
Self-braking cars cheaper to insure


Spoke to my insurers about replacing our runaround car an i30 with the new model which has the autonomous pack. They said insurance rates will probably be reduced based on historical data for particular models, rather than the tech.

The stats are compelling, vast majority of head ons and rear enders are caused by inattention. Call this a "human factor" that is unrelated to handling skill.

Google "mobile eye", they make the tech for most car manufacturers. They do a version 6 aftermarket version for $1700 fitted.
D4 needs canbus unlocked. Does all the warnings but can't apply the brakes. Has buzzer and optional haptic warning (vibrator) for lane deviation. Forward collision warning, applies brake lights too. From what I understand it could be feasible for the disco community brainstrust to plumb it into brakes and apply a % of brake pedal to begin to slow vehicle, as many of the manufacture versions do.

Such kit makes holding onto a D4 for another 5 years that much more attractive and the D5 less attractive.

i thought dimable dash lights was an ADR requirement??

When we say dash lights, we're referring to the "high beam" and other indicator lights right? My AC controls, speedo, tacho etc all dim just fine.

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Originally Posted by veebs

When we say dash lights, we're referring to the "high beam" and other indicator lights right? My AC controls, speedo, tacho etc all dim just fine.

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No I mean the AC controls, speedo, tacho etc. I have no knowledge of the D4, just reacting to what somebody else posted earlier. I couldn't see any adjustment control in the online manual for the D4 though.

Right - well they all dim just fine, using the control near the headlight switch.

But the High beam, Low beam, auto high beam, cruise control on, etc LEDs stay stubbornly bright.

I retro-fitted a radar unit to my MY12 L322 mostly to get adaptive cruise control but also for forward alert and I enabled autonomous braking to keep adaptive CC active down to a stop rather than switch off at slower speeds. To date forward alert has triggered unnecessarily a few times but I'll leave it activated in case it may be of use. However ACC on late L322s was offered elsewhere in the world so support for it already existed on my vehicle, not necessarily the same applies to D4s.

Guys it was me who earlier mentioned non dimable dash lights on a previously owned Disco HSE, but as I mentioned it was on a D2a which is a 2003 model not a D3/4.

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Originally Posted by TB

So all you blokes dissing on software need to get out of your Discovery 3 and 4 and into some older vehicles which don't have traction control and stability control and ABS and electronic diffs and terrain response and heck, electronic fuel injection and any modern automatic gearbox. Ditch your GPS. Every single one of those things is software at its heart and is diminishing your ability as a non-f-wit competent driver.

[bigwhistle]

Seriously, it is an interesting topic... what do I bring to the process of driving which software doesn't do better? Even if the software could do it better, what would I insist on doing myself anyway because that's the whole point of driving dammit? Because I guarantee you the software is going to keep improving a whole lot quicker than human brains can.

On the D4 market, I don't like my chances of finding a great one with e-diff. All the die-hards are holding on to their proper off road D4's.

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I currently drive a 300TDi D1. Not sure what software I am using. Certainly not the suspension or seats.

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Originally Posted by Eevo

i thought dimable dash lights was an ADR requirement??

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Can you tell me where the dimmer rheostat ( or equivalent ) is on my 2000 D2? Cos I'm buggered if I can find it.

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Originally Posted by Graeme

I retro-fitted a radar unit to my MY12 L322 mostly to get adaptive cruise control but also for forward alert and I enabled autonomous braking to keep adaptive CC active down to a stop rather than switch off at slower speeds. To date forward alert has triggered unnecessarily a few times but I'll leave it activated in case it may be of use. However ACC on late L322s was offered elsewhere in the world so support for it already existed on my vehicle, not necessarily the same applies to D4s.

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Graeme, what was cost of the retrofit?

mjb