I'm leaving, on a tilt-tray. Or, a report on Land Rover Assist

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Originally Posted by edddo

Hard not to see this situation as just thougtless and impractical design.
No dip stick and over $1000 for fix and end of trip.....
Ffs, isnt that tech simply for the sake of tech?

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Mines fine,no problems with the dipstick,it works well,as they have for the last umm...100 plus yrs or so.

You would have to think what the f were they thinking?

As times passes the younger the generation of engineers designing things becomes the more likely digital will over-rule analog as the preferred method.

I'm sure they would think what a crazy idea it is to have to a) exit the cab b) open the bonnet c) remove dipstick and find something to wipe it on.

Why do all that when you can just press a button.

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Originally Posted by PerthDisco

As times passes the younger the generation of engineers designing things becomes the more likely digital will over-rule analog as the preferred method.

I'm sure they would think what a crazy idea it is to have to a) exit the cab b) open the bonnet c) remove dipstick and find something to wipe it on.

Why do all that when you can just press a button.

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It's all well and good to check the oil via a button But what about all the other things that should be checked under the bonnet "Before" the engine is started such as coolant level, power steering and brake fluid not to mention a myriad of other things that need to be given a "Once Over".
Maybe it's because LR has come to the conclusion that the majority of the people driving their cars are complete "Numpties" and wouldn't have a clue what they are looking for and more importantly what to do if they find a problem anyway [bigwhistle]

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Originally Posted by trout1105

It's all well and good to check the oil via a button But what about all the other things that should be checked under the bonnet "Before" the engine is started such as coolant level, power steering and brake fluid not to mention a myriad of other things that need to be given a "Once Over".
Maybe it's because LR has come to the conclusion that the majority of the people driving their cars are complete "Numpties" and wouldn't have a clue what they are looking for and more importantly what to do if they find a problem anyway [bigwhistle]

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Hate to tell you, but coolant - has a low level sensor. Brakes, again, low fluid sensor. Power steering, not sure, but you get the idea. Brakes have had a fluid level indicator forever. I guess the real gripe is all of those allow you to manually verify that the sensor is working correctly whereas LRs dipstick-less oil level is a concern for the 0.001% of times they fail (or when you wish to manually check).
It would not have been hard to add a cable based level indicator into the extraction tube so one could argue it's an oversight.

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Hate to tell you, but coolant - has a low level sensor. Brakes, again, low fluid sensor. Power steering, not sure, but you get the idea.

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That may be the case But usually by the time the "Idiot" lights come on the damage has already been done.
A visual check is always more accurate that relying on a light coming up on the dash and to not even give the driver the option of being able to check the oil via a dipstick is idiotic.

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Originally Posted by scarry

Mines fine,no problems with the dipstick,it works well,as they have for the last umm...100 plus yrs or so.

You would have to think what the f were they thinking?

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Much like other euro's.. scare the owners into only using the dealerships to service. the lack of a logbook, plus these sort of idiosyncrasies scares smaller mechanics into not taking jobs like these on..

My friend is a factory BMW mechanic, he said lots of euro manufacturers have gone this way :(

Bout time they have a special factory code only for opening the bonnet.

I'm sure there are lots of people who never open the bonnet or check the tyre pressures in between services. My wife would be one of them. I discovered the other day she had been driving around with a flat tyre. When I checked it only had 6 pounds in it. "I thought it looked a bit low, but I was too busy to check it" she said. (Insert face-plant icon)

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Originally Posted by DiscoJeffster

Hate to tell you, but coolant - has a low level sensor. Brakes, again, low fluid sensor. Power steering, not sure, but you get the idea. Brakes have had a fluid level indicator forever. I guess the real gripe is all of those allow you to manually verify that the sensor is working correctly whereas LRs dipstick-less oil level is a concern for the 0.001% of times they fail (or when you wish to manually check).
It would not have been hard to add a cable based level indicator into the extraction tube so one could argue it's an oversight.

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Many vehicles for a number of years have had a low level engine oil light.This combined with a simple dipstick would be pretty idiot proof,one would think.

Then again maybe not for some.[bigsad]

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Originally Posted by scarry

Many vehicles for a number of years have had a low level engine oil light.This combined with a simple dipstick would be pretty idiot proof,one would think.

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Hi,
Sister in law rocked up one day, the car reeking of hot, old oil.
I quizzed her on the oil light, but "It was not on all the time."

(headbang)

Cheers