Definitely a D3. Patrols are crude dinosaurs.
BTW not everything wants to poison or bite you. Roos want to kick you and koalas want to piddle on you.
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Definitely a D3. Patrols are crude dinosaurs.
BTW not everything wants to poison or bite you. Roos want to kick you and koalas want to piddle on you.
It all depends on what you are looking for.Quote:
Do I follow my heart and own a D3 and the expected running costs or go with the Jap option.
I have a 2004 D2 and the misses has a 2006 twin cab Hilux, both of which have about 240K's on the clock.
My D2 is a far more comfortable and refined truck to drive and it runs rings around the Hilux off and on road But my maintenance and repair bills for the D2 is much higher than the Hilux.
My D2 also has more creature comforts than the Hilux But the little 4 cyl Toyota diesel is far more economical at the fuel bowser than my V8.
So if you want something that is an absolute pleasure to drive and is something that puts that smug gin or your Mug while driving But it will cost you more at the fuel bowser and the workshop Go for the D3.
If you want something that is pretty "Ordinary" to drive and is the same as all the others on the road that don't have a "Soul" then Go for the Jap option.
And if a Koala piddles on you, you may get Chamidia.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
The petrol is the pick of the 2 particular vehicles you were looking at. I would immediately change to a serviceable pan on the auto if it hasn't already been done and change the auto trans fluid.
The Nissan Patrols that did not have the grenade motor was a very reliable and honest truck with (less be realists) lower maintenance costs (an average Patrol v average Disco) than any D3 or D4 over say a 10 year 200k stretch...but the D3 is much nicer to drive.
Cheers
Ants also want to bite you.Quote:
Originally Posted by bsperka
It's not all bad though. Sugar gliders just want to curl up in your jacket pocket. Bats have big cute eyes, are smarter than dogs and just want to eat your fruit. Snakes control rodents. Spiders want to run across your windscreen.
Had a grenade Patrol 3.0. One day driving back home from Sydney it went bang.145000km. Put a reco motor in it and sold it, then bought a new D4. Will have to say it was the best decision I made.
After 160000km is a pleasure to drive and does not get the shakes at cruising speed. The maintenance costs are certainly higher than the Nissan, but I have a capable and comfortable 4x4 I can jump in and do long distances in superb comfort and have the power to safely get past road trains. The fuel economy is better than the Nissan as well and I do not drive for economy.
Hi,
Interesting question you have asked.
I had a D3 and enjoyed driving it. Off road the car is extremely comfortable.
I had a D2 too. Whilst out with friends. A couple of games us were car hopping as they did not have an off road vehicle. My D2 came out as best car to ride in and not feel the bumps etc.
I now have a RRS TDV8. Awesome car, eats long distances and a pleasure to drive off road. However it does have a space issue compared to the D3. It is smaller inside.
I see your budget is $25,0000 bit thought you might be tempered by a 2012 D4 HSE 3.0. Currently for sale on Pickles T $30,000 as fixed price item.
2012 Land Rover Discovery 4 - Pickles Auctions Australia
I have looked at it a few times...but dstill not really want to sell my RRS and Defender and have the one car. Would advise getting someone with D4 knowledge look at if interested.
Carsales show a D4 at $24995. In budget!
We've taken a wrong turn
There is a huge variety of D3's as n carsales within your budget. I would be trying to get one with as much after market accessories as possible. Bullbar...saves a few thousand dollars.and then abc possibly long range tank..depend on touring or not. Things which capos a lot to add but may not be much more expensive on a used car!
Chilly
Ive had a 2.7 tdv6 2006 rrs since march. I had a few issues with the suspension but after changing the front and rear control valves the problem went away. I changed the oil pan for a steel one and I regularly get around 10 litres/100 k's in it. Whilst the least horsepowered of the variants, it is quick enough for me and cruises effortlessly. At 100 k's an hour you will get almost 1000 k's range. Yes I do worry about the cam belt.. it was changed prior to me buying car (at around 125 k kilometers) and now it has 160 k on it so i might do an oil pump change in it at 200 k mark. I like the rrs a lot but after seeing Dons d4, it had a lot more room in it with a split tailgate and storage bins in back.. essentially same vehicle mechanically.
If you can do a bit of your own work and buy parts from the uk sellers (rimmer, island 4x4 to name 2), ownership costs can be reduced. They are an eminently capable highway car and state of the art off road. This forum is also extremely helpful.
Whilst hey have the potential to be quirky they do seem to be capable of high mileage. The diesel gets better fuel economy but has more achilles heels by way of egr's cam belt high pressure fuel pump et al so consider engine choice carefully. If its a city car go petrol, if you do a lot of Highway k's the diesel wont clog up as quick.
Good luck
Would recommend getting her to take a D3 for a test drive. One drive should convince her it's the right 4x4! If not is clear that you have made a mistake and I am sure that someone on this forum can assist with the appropriate divorce paper workQuote:
Originally Posted by theh33d
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Hi There,
So, I have recently returned from a trip up North, I HAD a RRS TDV8, as mentioned in so many of the other posts these are a beautiful vehicle, yes a bit smaller inside than a TDV6 D3 which I have also had, again a very comfortable vehicle, economical etc etc. I did an EGR valve whilst driving around at home, this was open heart surgery replacing this to put it lightly, then my top thermostat housing cracked unbeknown to me after leaking slightly for several months into the V valley, no harm don't I replaced the housing.
Getting back to the TDV8 last year on the way back from Broome in Denham the alternator crapped itself, the mechanic in Denham opened the bonnet promptly told me "he was going in there" and shut it again. I had to get the vehicle and the camper trailer trucked back to Perth, thank you RAC, I will remain a member for the rest of my life. My wife and I had to catch the Grey hound bus back to Perth, I will NVER put my wife or myself through an experience like that again, it was horrendous, we laugh about it now however at the time it was quite disturbing. Being verbally abused and putting up with some of the smells released from various orifices by other indigenous travellers who I suspect had been drinking since Port Headand was not pleasant.
This year on the way to Marble Bar going up the coastal road when I stopped at Karratha I noticed soot on the back window, various members from AULRO talked me through various things to check and do, we completed the holiday with no further incidents apart from using between 3 to 4 more litres / 100, the vehicle seemed to return to normal after a week being home. However this was to close to turning into another nightmare trip home.
On my return to home I / we decided to sell the TDV8 and I now have a 2014 3.0 Hilux dual cab, it is not a patch on the comfort of the RRS, it doesn't have any of the refinements of luxury travel, fuel economy is great, I have access to a plethora of accessories and if I need them I can get spare parts from Repco or Super Cheap. There is no forum, there is no LR wave and all the other stuff that goes with owning an iconic brand.
Saying that my primary vehicle, my daily drive is my beautiful Rimini Red RRS N/A 4.4 V8, it is a pleasure to drive in all aspects of driving, goes like a stabbed rat, sounds awesome, pretty damn economical, relatively simple to maintain and it doesn't break. Being a petrol I got this one pretty cheap, easily justifiable in the petrol V diesel argument, personally wouldn't have another LR diesel, would have a go at a 3.0 diesel they seem to have a good rap. However I have to try a 4.2 supercharged RRS yet, might give one of them a go in the next couple of years, yes they like a drink, bit more complex however would like t think it would be fun.
I've done the Patrol thing, done the Land Cruiser thing, just love my Land Rovers, the Hilux has been bought for a specific reason for a trip next year to Kununurra up the GRR, could well need a few chiropractor appointments on my return, plus a couple of teeth but at least I'll get there and back, and if anything does go wrong a mechanic won't look at me like I landed from the planet Zod when I rock up at the workshop. some times you just have to do what you have to do.
Cheers Marty