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    Air suspension fault - help diagnosing

    hey guys

    I'm hoping someone has a good knowledge of how the air suspension system works to help diagnose this error.

    If I start the car and select off road height it rises very efficiently (like new) but then about 2 minutes later (or less) it says "Suspension fault" and using my nanocom it gives 'P0087'.

    P0087 code is "reservoir filling too slowly" - from reading this usually means either:

    1) a leak between the compressor and the reservoir - I've sprayed soap all over the lines and no bubbles were apparent.
    2) a worn out compressor..

    - The only issue I can find when taking apart the compressor (I've replaced most rubber seals) is the piston seems to glide very easily up and down in the chamber with only a little bit of friction, i'm not sure how much friction there should be but I'm imagining it should be quite firm to make it air tight??

    So my head says that part is faulty thus a new pump is in order but if it is so bad then how is the car able to rise so fast still? Or, does the car rise based on the reservoir and then its just telling me that it is taking ages to replenish that air?

    Lastly, could it be something else? I noticed there is a valve between the compressor and reservoir, what is its role and could it be involved in the error some how?

    I assume I can discount all other air-lines as the car does not drop at all overnight?

    any/all help appreciated.

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    First thing to replace is the dessicant in the air drier.

    That's what usually causes this fault first, if you don't dry it out or replace it, it will then ruin the compressor.

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    sorry, should have added - this was also replaced along with the felt pads, dryer cap and all seals on the dryer.

    the dryer is one part that I'm certain is in perfect condition now.

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    The pressure required to raise to off-road height is significantly less than the reservoir pressure and uses any available pressure from the reservoir before using just the compressor. A weak/worn compressor might still raise quickly enough but can't cause the reservoir pressure to increase quickly enough.
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    In a similar vein, I'm having EAS problems myself and was wondering if anyone had ever current/amp/tong tested their compressor and remembers what value it ran at? This would help myself and the o.p. as too high a reading means comp seizing etc, too low means rings worn.

    Also looking over my mechanics shoulder I saw a voltage setting in the diagnostics which jumped to 41 volts when comp ran but I'm thinking this might actually be amps and it is how the car diagnoses comp faults as per my aforementioned theory.

    I'd particularly like to hear from Hitachi equipped owners, but Dunlop, AMK are pro'ly all similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbyer View Post
    I would like to think that as well - that the new compressor is a two stage similar to the LFK21. If so, then there is a good chance that the new one will be better than the Hitachi single stage. (My fear was that it would be similar to the EK13.)

    It looks like the LFK21 would pull about 35 amps, (455 watts), so that sounds OK and I imagine on the LR version, the sensors within, with the appropriate software will all speak Land Rover so we might finally have a winner. If so, I think then compressor problems will start to revolve around the air dryer.
    This is the only sort of reference to amps I can find thus far, which is from Sept 2012. When I last tried mine a few weeks ago it would start at 25A and rise to 30A as it loaded up, so this sounds about right, if mine reads 40plus tomorrow, it'll sway me to the validity of a new comp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBD4 View Post
    OK just took some measurements so as not to rely on my guesses.

    levels measured from centre of wheel hub to arch - my efforts are not very accurate (O = Off road N = Normal A = Access height):

    Levels:
    ..| Front | Rear
    O | 515mm | 535mm
    N | 475mm | 490mm
    A | 425mm | 445mm

    Times:
    A ==> N 4 Secs
    N ==> O 6 Secs
    O ==> A 11Secs
    A ==> O 11Secs

    In all above times I waited for compressor to finish running before next setting was selected.

    Two A ==> O changes in a row with out waiting for compressor to refill
    A ==> O 14 Secs on 2nd run

    Compressor took about 2 Mins to refill the tank.

    Lastly, there are no accessories on the vehicle, Half a tank of fuel was on board and no people inside.

    Not sure how this compares to a new Hitachi - hope it provides some useful info.
    In answer to the o.p. re: times here are some I found thanks to SBD4, also from Sept 2012.

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