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Originally Posted by Bagoo76

Not going to argue with first hand experience but all that I am trying to point out is that the Toyo spares are still going to be more accessible than most other brands, especially European.

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I think that was the point ... everybody probably assumes .... and it was reinforced on this forum that pretty much everybody here also assumed that Toyota parts would be far easier to access.

The threads then drifted to ....if you have an LC 200 you are no better off than a D4, as their bespoke parts would be hard to find too....and probably the required analytical tools.

It then moved to a couple of mine fleet operators saying they couldn't get parts for their Hilux's for weeks ... not hi-tech ... just standard parts.... had to be shipped ... even though you'd assume they'd be a preferred customer.

Recently, there were freshly related stories about LR just getting parts and people to wherever you are in quick time.....probably not so out of warranty.

It's all heresy for me and your logic is solid considering the presence Toyota has in this country and around the world.

But if I was sailing off into the great beyond, I'd get more than just the apparent obvious measure of the support you will find across our vast land.

I was going to say old Toyotas and spare parts for them probably, but an earlier post (about 3 ago) suggests that they may be difficult to sustain moving forward unless somebody is hording old parts.

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Originally Posted by vee8auto

at least Andrew puts up reasoned justifications for all of his conclusions.

You're not the only one, but people on this forum that just chime in with "thats crap" or "you're speaking $hit"... or words to that effect. And then no more justification.

Its pretty offensive behaviour.

No other way to describe it.

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I was offended - steve hughes - YouTube

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Originally Posted by Bagoo76

Actually VERY different to Toyota. Toyota has the widest parts availability in this country including used parts. Doesn’t matter whether you agree because it’s a fact just like the earth is round.

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Your opinion is very un-fact [emoji6]
Having worked with Toyota’s for years I can tell you right now that unless it’s a filter, wheel bearing or belt it’s highly unlikely to be in stock at a Toyota dealer / service agent.

We wait weeks for simple parts...


The earth is not round; it’s a bumpy spheroid [emoji6]

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Originally Posted by Tombie

I was offended - steve hughes - YouTube

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'Offensive' also means attacking, which was part of my meaning.

I just wonder why its so important for you to attack and belittle people via this Forum.

I think you'll find that disco was in Africa. I tend to agree with his comments about tyres and there has been many posts on here about tyre selection. As for the mechanical side of things I also agree. With land rover restricting dealerships it jacks up the price on parts and servicing. His comments are only on the discovery range and not defender. You can't really compare a Toyota 70 series to a disco, they are different builds for different purposes. Same with the 200 series. As much as I like giving it to the 200 owners it was designed for a different sub segment to the disco. It will be interesting to see what direction Toyota takes the 200 in the future. Are they going to continue to tech it up to chase the disco or keep it in the middle of disco and 70 series/defender? For use land rover fans, will the new defender going to be as capable and mechanically hard core as the old. End of the day, these decisions are up to individuals when they walk into a showroom. I'm a land rover tragic so I was stuffed from the start 😂

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Originally Posted by Bagoo76

Not going to argue with first hand experience but all that I am trying to point out is that the Toyo spares are still going to be more accessible than most other brands, especially European.

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Actually I think you'll find Toyota dealers, like other dealers, only stock the minimum parts and get everything else flown in from a capital city. Keeping surplus stock on hand just in case it might be needed one day is poor management.

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Actually I think you'll find Toyota dealers, like other dealers, only stock the minimum parts and get everything else flown in from a capital city. Keeping surplus stock on hand just in case it might be needed one day is poor management.

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Agreed [thumbsupbig]
There wouldn't be too many dealers or workshops that carry the vast array of spare parts like they used to anymore and the very best way to prevent needing these parts when on a trip in the fist place is to have your vehicle in tip top condition Before you head off on your adventure.
Take your truck in for a service and tell them that you will be doing an extended trip and if you are going to be going off road let them know so that they will do a thorough check of the vehicle Or do this yourself.
Too many people just do a simple service and head off on their trip without doing a proper and thorough check of their truck and something simple that could have been rectified easily at home can turn into a complete disaster in the middle of Woop woop because of this.

I see the initial post degraded into a ****ing contest. I thought we (LR owners) were meant to stick together?

I am a sailor, albeit with a few technical certificates/diplomas etc...... But old mate that created the video has much more off road credentials than me.
I did find it weird though relating to the 45psi (3BAR) for offroad. Crikey my tyre placard reads something like 33psi front and 36/38 rear. I just keep it simple. 36 f/r. Simple. Maybe stupid. but simple works. Please offend me at will :-)

But on an objective note.
Old mate (don't know/care for his name as I'm busy) he mentions that the LR3/LR4 platform destroy themselves/have unavoidable problems..... well lets be honest; I have upgraded from a D1 to an D3. I spoke to my wife about the differences. With an LR3 I would like to carry a BT IID tool for outback touring. But if you don't then will it leave me stranded?
A 200 LC is also based upon a CANBUS system.
So do JEEP.
Among others.....

The second old mate in the movie (D4 owner) he had HEAPS of spares (2) and still destroyed 4 tyres.

So I question; Is that LR fault, or the owners fault?

Rant over.... standing by for the slaying.

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Originally Posted by kreecha

The second old mate in the movie (D4 owner) he had HEAPS of spares (2) and still destroyed 4 tyres.

So I question; Is that LR fault, or the owners fault?

Rant over.... standing by for the slaying.

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Maybe a bit of both at fault, LR for designing a 4wd vehicle with lower profile tyres rather than higher profile, maybe the owners fault for not having the most suitable tyres for the task and/or poor tyre pressure choice.........[tonguewink]

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Originally Posted by shanegtr

Maybe a bit of both at fault, LR for designing a 4wd vehicle with lower profile tyres rather than higher profile, maybe the owners fault for not having the most suitable tyres for the task and/or poor tyre pressure choice.........[tonguewink]

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I'd say so - we know the lower profile isn't ideal, but from the stories I've red on here and elsewhere, losing 4 tyres is fairly atypical without something else adding to the story.