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    Quote Originally Posted by AnD3rew View Post
    Do we think itís time this forum grew up a little on the extreme enforcement of mild swearing rules? As far as I am aware most if not all of us are adults here and even my kids have been exposed to mild swearing out ther in the real world since they went to school.

    not having a go at you personally LRD414, but really?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geedublya View Post
    It is more to do with income that helps pay for the forum than lack of tolerance by incisor.
    It is everything to do with this. There is no forum at all without the advertising revenue that is entirely predicated on a G-rating (as defined by Google et al) and member subscriptions.

    Letís please keep this thread on topic.

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    The idea that HDC is available with engine off doesnít sound correct to me and is the first Iíve heard of it. I certainly wouldnít be relying on that.

    I do agree re less stability when at higher than off-road height and always try to have the height as low as practical for the terrain.

    I have been in a stall situation a couple of times with a loss of traction on very steep slopes. Holding the vehicle with the foot brake wasnít difficult as far as I remember while re-starting.

    I reckon slipping into that gully would have been enough to initiate a roll.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoosaMick View Post
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    Alloffroad #137 - 4x4 Victorian High Country Discovery 4 Rollover

    I donít fully understand how the engine would stall with an auto box and torque converter.
    He said that the engine turned itself off to protect the transmission once the car started rolling backwards in a forward gear. Not the best way for the car to protect itself under the circumstances!

    Good points about the HDC. I'd never thought of that as a safety backup if something went wrong with the engine or transmission on such a steep slope.

    He said that the EPB should automatically activate but it doesn't on my D4 or L405. The EPB auto activates on my 2017 DS though, when the engine is turned off or the transmission is put in Park.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnD3rew View Post
    Do we think itís time this forum grew up a little on the extreme enforcement of mild swearing rules? As far as I am aware most if not all of us are adults here and even my kids have been exposed to mild swearing out ther in the real world since they went to school.

    not having a go at you personally LRD414, but really?
    Crack`s me up turn any free to air TV on and cop the language on there and they still make money
    But they dont have deal with Google and this adsense crapola
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    Quote Originally Posted by rangieman View Post
    But they dont have deal with Google and this adsense crapola
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    Quote Originally Posted by BobD View Post
    He said that the engine turned itself off to protect the transmission once the car started rolling backwards in a forward gear. Not the best way for the car to protect itself under the circumstances!

    Does this actually happen?Definitely didn't in the D2 i had.

    Good points about the HDC. I'd never thought of that as a safety backup if something went wrong with the engine or transmission on such a steep slope.

    Will HDC definitely operate if the vehicle engine is not running?

    He said that the EPB should automatically activate but it doesn't on my D4 or L405. The EPB auto activates on my 2017 DS though, when the engine is turned off or the transmission is put in Park.

    Only does on later D4's,mine doesn't.

    Lots of questions,we will probably never find out what exactly did happen.

    The main thing is no one was injured,but it does show how easily these thing can and do happen.
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    Guilty as charged. My D4, my rollover, something not on the bucket list ticked off, but I walked away with a few ďnon AULRO permittedĒ bleeps and few bruises.
    To clarify a few things written above:
    Height setting and loaded to hilt....irrelevant to the cause of the rollover and not quite correct.
    The track was an uphill climb, loss of traction, stalling occurred.
    The rolling backwards (the part that really concerns me, as Iím pretty sure my foot was planted on the brakes - which is also needed to restart a stalled vehicle) caused the vehicle to barrel roll off the track (as the track edge disappeared down the embankment). The vehicle did not roll on the track, it rolled backwards down the track, off the edge, and then barrel rolled.
    HDC working in reverse with engine off / auto park brake
    HDC in reverse definitely works when the engine is running, I have used this a few times. HDC was not engaged, although comment has been made about it working with the engine off...Iím not sure. Lesson learned though...tough steep climbs, maybe engage HDC.
    Auto park brake - this did not occur, probably as it is a feature added / removed before / after my model.
    Thanks for the wishes, sorry for the swearing ;-)
    A few lessons learned, ultimately line was about 10cms wrong, and I walked away. Glad it was in a D4.

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    Hi Simm. Very sorry to see you D4 on its side. Mate I have had a situation where my vehicle stalled and rolled back only a foot or so and by the time I bit the brake she slid a bit before the brakes stopped her (very steep.climb). I wonder if yours may have slid under brakes off the side? Ie the ABS did not allow the tyres to bite into the dirt and kept releasing slightly tbe pressure on the rotors before lock up.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by SimmAus View Post
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    A few lessons learned, ultimately line was about 10cms wrong, and I walked away. Glad it was in a D4.
    It looked like a wonderful and sensible trip with friends, I am so glad you are OK, and that your insurance paid out. Keep on keeping on!

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